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    (Original post by elliemayxo)
    It's absolutely vile, and anybody who thinks different must have a few issues themselves.
    But, as NYU2012 explained above, paedophilia itself (meaning 'sexual feelings towards children') doesn't harm anyone.
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    (Original post by Docjones1)
    The question was should it be legal, not should it be right.

    Homosexuality, Asexuality, Necrophilia (some aspects) and Pedophilia are all legal in most of the civilised world.
    What? Normally what is made illegal is something deemed wrong.

    (Original post by Keyhofi)
    Paedophilia is just an attraction. Like homosexuality is just an attraction. There is a difference between experiencing these feelings and acting on them. You can be a homosexual without ever having a same-sex partner, and you can be a paedophile without ever being near a child.
    Understand what "phile" is. You're defining the social use, not actual meaning.
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    (Original post by NYU2012)
    But pedophilia simply just is having certain thoughts. You're talking about rape and sexual assault, which are not pedophilia.
    Indeed I was, sorry, didn't make that clear in my initial reply.
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    (Original post by bassbabe)
    Yes, lets legalise sexual abuse of children. Plonker.
    Pedophilia is not rape or sexual assault. This is a blatant straw man.
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    (Original post by BugzyMalone)
    Paedophillia is prevalent in the bible and occurs in Middle Eastern countries. Also we've become accepting of all sorts of bizarre sexual orientations- homosexuality, asexuality, necrophillia and beastiality. The fact these are all accepted as the norm these days in society raises a quietly controversial question- should our views on Paedophillia change?
    Well, it often depends on the culture on what people find morally okay and what they find offensive, which quite often stimulates from what we can understand. Homosexuality and asexuality were not recognised as widely and were not understood and as a result treated as an abnormality which changed over years of awareness. Necrophilia is commonly associated as a mental illness due to the extremity of the act and is often only understood by people with the same desire. I suppose that's the same as paedophilia. But the difference is paedophilia goes further than that and in the same sense that bestiality harms animals it harms humans and can effect their physical and mental wellbeing. And in terms of it being seen as violent and cruel, It should stay illegal, regardless of understanding by the public.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    What? Normally what is made illegal is something deemed wrong.
    What? Do you understand what legal means? It means against the law...
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Since when was pedophilia reduced to the mere attraction. If I am a bibliophile, it means I read books a lot because I like them a lot. "Phile" as a suffix means when someone enjoys it and partakes in it as a hobby. It's not just one thing/attraction and "end of."
    Because that's what paedophilia is. Acting on the urges is where it goes down hill.

    I was under the impression that -phile means having an attraction or fondness for something. Whether it also means engaging in it varies on the definition.

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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    But, as NYU2012 explained above, paedophilia itself (meaning 'sexual feelings towards children' doesn't harm anyone.
    I do agree with you, yes. I mean... people do have crazy thoughts sometimes but for me, when children are involved I think it's too much. I could never trust someone like that, what about when these 'thoughts' aren't good enough, and they take their 'thoughts' even further? You can't trust that they will only think about it now and then.

    But yeah, someone can't be arrested for having thoughts obviously, I see what you're saying there.
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    Since when does someone have sexual thoughts and doesn't act on them at some point. Pedophilia is bad because it leads to sexual abuse of children. Otherwise pedophilia is simply theoretical and we all know it isn't.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Understand what "phile" is. You're defining the social use, not actual meaning.
    "phile" is a fondness for. The actual meaning of "pedophile" is someone who experiences sexual attraction towards those under the age of approximately 11. This is the actual, dictionary, medical and psychological definition of the word.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Understand what "phile" is. You're defining the social use, not actual use.
    You're being picky at the meaning of words now. Used in the real world "paedophile" simply means someone who experiences an attraction to children. It does not mean someone who abuses children. The term "child abuser" is one of several terms in our language to refer to people who abuse children.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Since when does someone have sexual thoughts and doesn't act on them at some point. Pedophilia is bad because it leads to sexual abuse of children. Otherwise pedophilia is simply theoretical and we all know it isn't.
    Miss Amour, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no reputation, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Since when does someone have sexual thoughts and doesn't act on them at some point. Pedophilia is bad because it leads to sexual abuse of children. Otherwise pedophilia is simply theoretical and we all know it isn't.
    You serious? I really don't want to bring homosexuality into this but you really have to think of the many homosexuals who will pretend to be heterosexual all their lives. The sexuality isn't a choice. Acting upon any sexuality is.

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    (Original post by Reue)
    I agree. Being a paedophile doesn't make you a molester in the same way that being straight doesn't make you a rapist and so those who act on it should (rightly so) be treated criminally.
    (Original post by Keyhofi)
    Paedophilia is ok.
    Child abuse is not.
    I think people use the word "paedophile" for those who have molested because it doesn't contain a verb, it's more of a concept. Thinking of an adult abuing a child is upsetting and disgusting, so we're more comfortable using the vague term.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Since when does someone have sexual thoughts and doesn't act on them at some point. Pedophilia is bad because it leads to sexual abuse of children. Otherwise pedophilia is simply theoretical and we all know it isn't.
    Paedophiles are normal people. They care about children like you or me. Most will never actually abuse a child as they know it is wrong.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    Since when does someone have sexual thoughts and doesn't act on them at some point.
    Monks. Catholic Priests. Nuns. People who are currently practicing abstinence for any number of reasons.

    Pedophilia is bad because it leads to sexual abuse of children.
    A sexual attraction, on it own, doesn't lead to abuse. A collection of other psychological factors, such as high levels of aggression, lack of empathy, etc. lead to abuse of children.

    Otherwise pedophilia is simply theoretical and we all know it isn't.
    It's not theoretical. You're trying to argue that the actual dictionary definition, as well as the medical and psychological definition of the word isn't actually the meaning of the word.
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    (Original post by Docjones1)
    What? Do you understand what legal means? It means against the law...
    You have such an annoyingly angry tone. Do not be condescending. I know what it means. I said illegal is based on something that is deemed wrong, thus making it illegal.

    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    Because that's what paedophilia is. Acting on the urges is where it goes down hill.

    I was under the impression that -phile means having an attraction or fondness for somehing.

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    I'm not under impressions. Like you just did, I googled to be sure and it said enjoying it as a hobby.
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    (Original post by Docjones1)
    Pedophilia isn't the sexual abuse of children and this whole question is flawed because pedophilia is already legal so you're as much a plonker as OP
    I was on about pedos acting out their sick fantasies. Sooner or later they do eventually. Bye PLONKER No.2
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    (Original post by elliemayxo)
    I do agree with you, yes. I mean... people do have crazy thoughts sometimes but for me, when children are involved I think it's too much. I could never trust someone like that, what about when these 'thoughts' aren't good enough, and they take their 'thoughts' even further? You can't trust that they will only think about it now and then.

    But yeah, someone can't be arrested for having thoughts obviously, I see what you're saying there.
    I don't know about you, but I have 'crazy thoughts' ("god I want to punch him in the face" etc a lot, but that doesn't translate into me actually being likely to go ahead and carry out my thoughts.

    We can't criminalise thoughts etc, so paedophilia can't be criminalised anyway.

    Say I regularly wish to punch random children in the face, but never act upon it. What makes a paedophile more dangerous to children than me (notwithstanding the difference between punching a child in the face and raping a child)?
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    OP with the greatest respect are you retarded?
 
 
 
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