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Labour's Exteme Left Shadow Cabinet, no women in top jobs & appoints John McDonnell! watch

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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Perhaps, but McDonnell is an old friend and in politics that always makes you eminently more qualified for a position.
    Those two best friends, socialism and nepotism. Equality for all! Except my best mate, he gets preference.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    You don't seem to understand the fact the reason its so bad is because he promised equality and didn't deliver it. It wouldn't have been a problem if he hasn't literally run on a platform of equality for women. And if there wasn't a woman incredibly qualified for the job who was shunned.
    So now equality is dependent on how many females he has in his shadow cabinet?

    Since when was it a law to have an equal number of men and women in a position? Never. How ridiculous is it that if an employer wants 10 employees, they must choose 5 men and 5 women rather than picking the best candidates because of fear of being branded "sexist"?

    If the women were not picked, its because they were not worthy of the title. Simple as. Don't pick these things from your ass to try and make an argument or find some sort of hole to pick at. We had a female PM before. Margaret Thatcher, heard of her? She was worthy of the title and got given the title by the people. Now quit sulking.
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    (Original post by N0XUS)
    So now equality is dependent on how many females he has in his shadow cabinet?

    Since when was it a law to have an equal number of men and women in a position? Never. How ridiculous is it that if an employer wants 10 employees, they must choose 5 men and 5 women rather than picking the best candidates because of fear of being branded "sexist"?

    If the women were not picked, its because they were not worthy of the title. Simple as. Don't pick these things from your ass to try and make an argument or find some sort of hole to pick at. We had a female PM before. Margaret Thatcher, heard of her? She was worthy of the title and got given the title by the people. Now quit sulking.
    He said he would.

    I repeat - he said he would.

    This is not some weird abstract ideal I'm imposing on him - it is something he said he would do.


    Again, I repeat, Angela eagle, one of the MPs most qualified to be chancellor in the whole party, what shafted for McDonnell, who has zero experience in economics or with the treasury, but happen to be jezzas bezzie mate.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    He said he would.

    I repeat - he said he would.

    This is not some weird abstract ideal I'm imposing on him - it is something he said he would do.


    Again, I repeat, Angela eagle, one of the MPs most qualified to be chancellor in the whole party, what shafted for McDonnell, who has zero experience in economics or with the treasury, but happen to be jezzas bezzie mate.
    Welcome to politics. They all say ****, most of said **** never actually happens. Take Cameron as an example. Regardless, he doesn't seem sexist - but if what you said is true then it doesn't look good for him at all. He may have won leadership but there's no way he will win an election. Too full of ****.
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    (Original post by N0XUS)
    Welcome to politics. They all say ****, most of said **** never actually happens. Take Cameron as an example. Regardless, he doesn't seem sexist - but if what you said is true then it doesn't look good for him at all. He may have won leadership but there's no way he will win an election. Too full of ****.
    Yeah but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out on it...

    Personally as a non corbynites it probably bodes well for me, hopefully he'll cut out a load of the crap he promised too. But this was like the one thing I agreed with, bringing more women into the cabinet. If I was Angela I'd be fuming.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Yeah but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out on it...

    Personally as a non corbynites it probably bodes well for me, hopefully he'll cut out a load of the crap he promised too. But this was like the one thing I agreed with, bringing more women into the cabinet. If I was Angela I'd be fuming.
    Bringing more women into the cabinet shouldn't even be a point, or something that he promises. He should have chosen the best candidates regardless or gender. If the best candidates were all somehow men - then so be it.

    He ****ed up bad, now the media is taking a huge dump all over him.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    You don't seem to understand the fact the reason its so bad is because he promised equality and didn't deliver it. It wouldn't have been a problem if he hasn't literally run on a platform of equality for women. And if there wasn't a woman incredibly qualified for the job who was shunned.
    I'm a meninist but loony lefties like Corbyn always lie this is no surprise

    Vote for real alpha men as politicians.. not these spineless Communists
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Angela eagle is 100 times more qualified than McDonnell to be chancellor. Like you don't even grasp how much more qualified she is for the job.
    I'm more qualified than McDonnell, let alone Angela Eagle.

    Corbyn seems determined to surround himself with similarly third rate minds that won't overshadow or question him. At least Foot (for example) was an intellectual - Corbyn isn't even that, and the appointment of McDonnell is the same kind of semi-nepotistic cronyism he claims to hate. Broad-based cabinet? Don't make me laugh.
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    Oh that Shadow Chancellor, another batty IRA supporter.
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    (Original post by N0XUS)
    Bringing more women into the cabinet shouldn't even be a point, or something that he promises. He should have chosen the best candidates regardless or gender. If the best candidates were all somehow men - then so be it.

    He ****ed up bad, now the media is taking a huge dump all over him.
    But I know there are enough good women MPs to fill haplf the cabinet. You're right though, its sad he has to promise it.

    The fact Angela is so qualified for chancellor has really shown up just how much of a nepotist he is.
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    (Original post by Amhorangerdgerriug)
    I'm more qualified than McDonnell, let alone Angela Eagle.

    Corbyn seems determined to surround himself with similarly third rate minds that won't overshadow or question him. At least Foot (for example) was an intellectual - Corbyn isn't even that, and the appointment of McDonnell is the same kind of semi-nepotistic cronyism he claims to hate. Broad-based cabinet? Don't make me laugh.
    Point accepted and duly noted.

    Doesn't take away from how qualified Angela is for the job though.

    I expected less though to be honest - the appointment of Heidi Alexander is a really good one.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Yeah but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out on it...

    Personally as a non corbynites it probably bodes well for me, hopefully he'll cut out a load of the crap he promised too. But this was like the one thing I agreed with, bringing more women into the cabinet. If I was Angela I'd be fuming.
    I recall her calling vince cable delusional and a liar for pointing out the likelihood of a recession in 2008...
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    McDonnell has been my MP since 1997. Really don't like him.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Oh that Shadow Chancellor, another batty IRA supporter.
    There's definitely some warped group think going on,

    At this rate they'll be wanting to pardon Ian Huntley for helping to bring in the Child Protection act.
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    The way I'm hearing it women were offered senior positions and declined them to take on different roles but the gutter media are of course, reaching for the sensationalist headline and the Corbyn-phobia continues.

    DC's cabinet is only 1/3rd female and Theresa May is the only female in a big job; surely that makes them even but we had no crazy backlash to Cameron's appointments.

    Tell you anything about the media?
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I recall her calling vince cable delusional and a liar for pointing out the likelihood of a recession in 2008...
    Voicing an opinion held by most economists at the time does not make you unqualified to be chancellor. Especially when compared with someone with no background in economics or the treasury
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    (Original post by Wattsy)
    The way I'm hearing it women were offered senior positions and declined them to take on different roles but the gutter media are of course, reaching for the sensationalist headline and the Corbyn-phobia continues.

    DC's cabinet is only 1/3rd female and Theresa May is the only female in a big job; surely that makes them even but we had no crazy backlash to Cameron's appointments.

    Tell you anything about the media?
    Still doesn't explain why Angela wasn't offered chancellor.
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    (Original post by Wattsy)
    The way I'm hearing it women were offered senior positions and declined them to take on different roles but the gutter media are of course, reaching for the sensationalist headline and the Corbyn-phobia continues.

    DC's cabinet is only 1/3rd female and Theresa May is the only female in a big job; surely that makes them even but we had no crazy backlash to Cameron's appointments.

    Tell you anything about the media?
    The Tories don't mandate equality of outcome (50% women cabinet), they believe in positions granted on merit. Most women in the Tories also agree apparently.
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    (Original post by Wattsy)
    The way I'm hearing it women were offered senior positions and declined them to take on different roles but the gutter media are of course, reaching for the sensationalist headline and the Corbyn-phobia continues.

    DC's cabinet is only 1/3rd female and Theresa May is the only female in a big job; surely that makes them even but we had no crazy backlash to Cameron's appointments.

    Tell you anything about the media?
    When will this nonsense with putting the word "phobia" after everything end. You really think it is entirely irrational to be repulsed by someone who so openly praises the IRA?
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Point accepted and duly noted.

    Doesn't take away from how qualified Angela is for the job though.

    I expected less though to be honest - the appointment of Heidi Alexander is a really good one.
    Can't say I know a lot about Heidi Alexander, but to be honest I was expecting a bit more of a mix as opposed to this sea of sycophants offset by the occasional token Blairite. Bringing Diane Abbott back into the fray is particularly disappointing, as well as the choice of Shadow Chancellor.
 
 
 
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