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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    The job creation (at least directly, in the short term) is going to have to be filled by immigrants surely, seeing as we have already established that there is a fundamental skills gap in this country?
    Not really. The joys of nuclear mean that security clearances are required for a lot of jobs that precludes a lot of immigrants.

    The governments known this skills gap is there for some time and set up this organisation some time ago.

    http://namrc.co.uk/services/sig/

    I love hearing graduates who have some soft degrees complaining about not being able to get jobs. I'd recommend get on an apprenticeship to study machining or welding.
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    (Original post by ZZTop1)
    Having parents working in the steel industry i can confirm she did over the 11 years from 79-90 less employees. Chinese imports did a lot to that though. The industry was much better and thrived under Harold Wilson who would of landslided thatcher if she stood in 74'
    You and your parents can't confirm jack. People basing national perceptions on their own personal anecdotes and experiences is beyond stupid. Industrial output and productivity increased under Thatcher, end of.
    Few people base their vote on who can waste the most taxpayer money subsidising industrial jobs. If any other employer goes under or makes redundancies, the workers simply get on with their life and find a new job. But for some reason those in heavy industry expect the taxpayer to guarantee them a job for life, and if that doesn't happen it's the Tories fault, even when it isn't.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Not really. The joys of nuclear mean that security clearances are required for a lot of jobs that precludes a lot of immigrants.

    The governments known this skills gap is there for some time and set up this organisation some time ago.

    http://namrc.co.uk/services/sig/

    I love hearing graduates who have some soft degrees complaining about not being able to get jobs. I'd recommend get on an apprenticeship to study machining or welding.
    Machining and welding are slogger jobs and some light weight ******s down south would not be able to lift the material let alone machine it
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    (Original post by ZZTop1)
    Machining and welding are slogger jobs and some light weight ******s down south would not be able to lift the material let alone machine it
    Slogger jobs?

    You appear to be stuck in a time warp and think that manufacturing is still in the first half of the twentieth century.

    One of the best welders I've ever met who is certifies up the ying yang with welding qualifications is a 4ft 10 waif of a girl.
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    You and your parents can't confirm jack. People basing national perceptions on their own personal anecdotes and experiences is beyond stupid. Industrial output and productivity increased under Thatcher, end of.
    Few people base their vote on who can waste the most taxpayer money subsidising industrial jobs. If any other employer goes under or makes redundancies, the workers simply get on with their life and find a new job. But for some reason those in heavy industry expect the taxpayer to guarantee them a job for life, and if that doesn't happen it's the Tories fault, even when it isn't.
    Steel out put actually decreased in thatchers years she put 1 million steel workers and miners out of work.But there is very little evidence due to no internet reports. If you tyle steel output graph in google images it decreased the very year she gpt in and 70 percent of steel workers changed occupation
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Slogger jobs?

    You appear to be stuck in a time warp and think that manufacturing is still in the first half of the twentieth century.

    One of the best welders I've ever met who is certifies up the ying yang with welding qualifications is a 4ft 10 waif of a girl.
    You haven't met dave of the Denbigh estate in Tipton then he would kick your ass
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    (Original post by ZZTop1)
    Steel out put actually decreased in thatchers years she put 1 million steel workers and miners out of work.But there is very little evidence due to no internet reports. If you tyle steel output graph in google images it decreased the very year she gpt in and 70 percent of steel workers changed occupation
    Steel is not the entirety of British industry. Steel and mining output decreased, but automotives, chemicals, weapons, aerospace etc. all increased massively.
    70% of steel workers changed occupation because they weren't needed. By 1987 it took less than half the man hours to produce a liquid tonne of steel than it did a decade before. France lost 70% of it's steel workforce, the United States over 60%, even Japan almost 35%. It wasn't a Thatcherite conspiracy against steel workers, but an overall WORLDWIDE trend. The taxpayer had to cough up a staggering £1 billion in 1981 to cover British Steel's losses. The idea that the taxpayer should foot the bill because some socialists get hard ons over the thought of working in heavy industry is nonsensical.
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    I welcome our new Chinese emperors. I hope they are kind to our weak leaders!
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    The fear people have of Chinese investment is quite amusing. These aren't our enemies, they are capitalists that want to line their pockets. I'm all for mass investment from the US, Euro-zone, China and India.

    As for the OP's post, when the steel price increases so will output.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    I welcome our new Chinese emperors. I hope they are kind to our weak leaders!

    the best yet
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The fear people have of Chinese investment is quite amusing. These aren't our enemies, they are capitalists that want to line their pockets. I'm all for mass investment from the US, Euro-zone, China and India.

    As for the OP's post, when the steel price increases so will output.
    LOL this is the most naiive post i have ever seen.

    Good we have people like this, will make the "transition" easier.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    LOL this is the most naiive post i have ever seen.

    Good we have people like this, will make the "transition" easier.
    Do you worry everytime the Americans or Europeans buy something.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Do you worry everytime the Americans or Europeans buy something.
    When it's a strategic asset, yes. When a country jumps from spending a billion here and there in 2005 to 100s of billions in 2015 yes. When it's a communist country on the rise, yes. When it's MUCH larger than us - yes.

    I hope our new leaders will treat us better than our last!
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    When it's a strategic asset, yes. When a country jumps from spending a billion here and there in 2005 to 100s of billions in 2015 yes. When it's a communist country on the rise, yes. When it's MUCH larger than us - yes.

    I hope our new leaders will treat us better than our last!
    Fair enough.

    Its not communist though, hasn't been in decades (and no, keeping the same party name doesn't mean its communist).
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Hopefully get a job in a company who's future has been secured by Chinese investment.
    And run on Chinese employment practices
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Fair enough.

    Its not communist though, hasn't been in decades (and no, keeping the same party name doesn't mean its communist).
    It has the same characteristics of communism regardless of what is implemented below. 5 year plans, centralised government, authoritarian, government ownership etc.
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    I for one welcome our Chinese overlords and the delicious food they bring with them.
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    Well, honestly, there are worse people that could end up running the world than the Chinese. For Communists, they're awfully competitive and obsessed with money. They're actually a lot like the Robber Barons in early 20th century America. Bad working conditions, low wages, child labour, corporate housing... we just stopped doing all that because we decided to be humanitarian.

    I've heard that in Asia, people derisively call the Chinese "The Americans of Asia". LOL.

    Is it just me, or does it seem like nations only get ahead when they're willing to play dirty?

    I guess I'd rather have a secular and greedy country in charge, even if it's a rather alien one.
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    Embarrassing how many important aspects of Britain are owned by greedy foreigners. Doesn't help having a scum government who will whore the nation out at any opportunity in power.
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    Smashing the prices up? Monopoly? I don't think so.

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