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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I don't think that's right. There's been far more about the Saudis on TSR than China.
    i am referring to the media. The media totally went full retard over china's visit. Wanting our leaders to raise human right issues on a business meeting. Because its totally the right place and the right time and totally relevant. Theres like 10 + pages covering the story. Meanwhile saudi is going to execute a british man for brewing vine. and theres only like one page covering this on newspaper.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Lego is getting a new Legoland in China.

    By a total coincidence, leading Chinese critical artist/dissident, Ai Weiwei, wanted to create a major new work in Lego. So he tried ordering a big box from the company. They said no.
    http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...ian-exhibition



    It must be unusual for a company to refuse to sell its own product in large quantities. All part of the new global nexus between China, where workers rights and wages are poor, the multinationals, who take advantage and the politicians, who they keep tucked away for a rainy day.

    With this sort of kowtowing even by Lego, it's hardly a surprise that our own Tories cannot resist the allure of money as they grovel to China's unelected dictators. Although apparently the advertised £40bn David Cameron said we were getting from it is largely made up. Kind of makes you wonder what it's really all about.
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/...under-scrutiny

    One of the most comic claims from the Big Visit of Xi Jinping, China's non-entity President-until-someone-else-we've-never-heard-of was that Oxford University was getting £6bn in a research programme for regenerative tissue medicine. The actual figure is £1.5m. :lol:
    You seem to have a big problem with China given by the amount of anti-Chinese threads you've posted lately. The rise of ISIS should be a good lesson in the dangers of messing in other affairs.
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    (Original post by Lardeedahdeedah)
    You seem to have a big problem with China given by the amount of anti-Chinese threads you've posted lately.
    I have a problem with the authoritarian and anti-democratic government of China. That's a lot different to 'having a problem with China', if by that you mean Chinese people or the people of China.

    I hate it that our government and main political parties are so desperate to be in bed with China economically that they are willing to completely ignore the plight of tens of thousands of political detainees (who we know the Chinese government use torture methods on) held without trial or defence. I hate it that our politicians who supposedly defend democracy here can be so blind to it, just because the Chinese government promises commercial deals.

    Even the supposed commercial deals are paper-thin and actually the Tories seem to have been played during the recent meetings. This was a PR coup for the unelected one-party government and purchased very cheaply. It's not dissimilar to the way Hitler managed the 1936 Olympics to boost the Nazi Party and the other governments played along.
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    China is not some backwards country that the West can push around. We may have been able to mess up Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc but China is a different kettle of fish.
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    (Original post by Lardeedahdeedah)
    China is not some backwards country that the West can push around. We may have been able to mess up Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc but China is a different kettle of fish.
    Nobody's saying it is a backward country.

    It isn't 'pushing a country around' to desire freedom from tyranny for its citizens. Many Chinese people have expressed a desire for more freedom. We don't really know the full extent of this desire, because of massive censorship and information control by the government. We are told the government is popular, but this has to be suspect information.

    When China holds free, multi-party elections, we will know the true extent of the popularity of the current government. Until that day, we should regard it as a sort of capitalist version of Stalinism, which has only just closed some of the labour camps and has just re-interned about 10,000 political prisoners without trial, not to mention thousands of executions in deplorable circumstances and numerous other actions with no legal basis that would be recognised as legitimate outside China.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Nobody's saying it is a backward country.

    It isn't 'pushing a country around' to desire freedom from tyranny for its citizens. Many Chinese people have expressed a desire for more freedom. We don't really know the full extent of this desire, because of massive censorship and information control by the government. We are told the government is popular, but this has to be suspect information.

    When China holds free, multi-party elections, we will know the true extent of the popularity of the current government. Until that day, we should regard it as a sort of capitalist version of Stalinism, which has only just closed some of the labour camps and has just re-interned about 10,000 political prisoners without trial, not to mention thousands of executions in deplorable circumstances and numerous other actions with no legal basis that would be recognised as legitimate outside China.
    exaggerated sensational bull****
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    exaggerated sensational bull****
    I think people working for the Chinese Embassy as paid-for misinformation spreaders should say that's what they're doing. Not saying you are, but it was very noticeable that there were an awful lot of China PR people out and about on the forums during the last few days.

    Nobody outside the secretive Chinese oligarchy knows the true scale of political imprisonment in China, the number I quoted is a recent Amnesty estimate. Perhaps you can say how you know differently, or will you respond with another one-line meaningless insult?
 
 
 
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