Hypocrisy of westerners on their party lifestyle

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Fuelling the demand for prostitution leads to a whole raft of social problems cos of all the associated ills that come with it like drugs/other organised crime. As I said the cocaine trade is severely damaging societies in Latin America..

A) I assume we're not talking about human trafficking. Paying for a prostitute does not necessarily mean you're paying for a victim of human trafficking. That is absolutely wrong on anyone's standard. But again it's not identical with paying for a prostitute.

B) First, If what you say is true (which it partly is imo), then anyone involved in the cocaine trade is to be blamed not just the wealthy city traders. Second and most importantly, the reason that the cocaine trade is severely damaging Latin America is because cocaine possession is illegal. And that is what makes the trade profitable in the first place. It is not the fault of users, it's stupid legislation by the governments in the US and the Western world. Direct your wrath where it's deserved.

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Reply 21

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Saftvare Jarb

They are, but the City/banking gambled/****ed around with taxpayers money and then some and then had the cheek to ask for more for the bailouts. Surely the squeeze we now face and all the current problems precipitate from all that cocking about 2005-8?

The problem is not that society is hypocritical, but that society allows the big banks to be casinos that have a zero risk of real loss for the operators. We featherbed their big gambling habit by giving them endless tax breaks, bail out their bonuses (at massive cost to our own lifestyles over the last 10 years) and indulge them by refusing to ask them to change. And when I say "we", I don't mean us ordinary people, but the New Labour, Coalition and Tory governments who allow it all because they are indoctrinated by New Right ideology, because they are corrupted pawns of the City and because we don't protest when they leave the banking system untouched and the smug, pampered criminals who run it in place.

The fact that they also have coke habits is neither here nor there in the big picture, but it's a sad footnote that we also as taxpayers indulge their drug habits and the incomes of Colombian gangsters.

Reply 22

Howard

Original post by Saftvare Jarb

The elite should be held to a higher moral standard. Anyone in The City found out for doing coke/whores should face severe (public) punishments for it. The lower classes if anything should be given some leeway, after all our expectations of their entire value system/education are lower.

Nonsense.

Reply 23

Howard

Original post by Saftvare Jarb

They protest against the restriction of freedoms, pro-personal choice and glamourise over-indulgence amongst students, the elite, celebs yet when the homeless, chavs and those on benefits do the same, then the abuse starts to fly ('oh they spend it all on booze/drugs' etc)

There's an obvious difference between me spending my own money on booze and drugs and partying and giving my money to someone else to spend on booze and drugs and partying.

Reply 24

Howard

Original post by SwedishRedhead

My compliments to the chef.

Reply 25

Saftvare Jarb

Original post by Howard

There's an obvious difference between me spending my own money on booze and drugs and partying and giving my money to someone else to spend on booze and drugs and partying.

Tbh bruv nobody should be doing it under my proposed Sharia Britain i.e. a total moral and physical clean up right across the board.

Reply 26

Howard

Original post by Saftvare Jarb

Tbh bruv nobody should be doing it under my proposed Sharia Britain i.e. a total moral and physical clean up right across the board.

It's none of your business how others spend their money.

Why don't you use your energy to make a positive contribution to society? You could start by teaching muslim men that being a pedophile is wrong so we don't see a repeat of hundreds of preteens in places like Rochdale getting molested and raped. Once you've done that I'll wager you'll be in a much better position to lecture the rest of us on morality, clean living, and the benefits of Sharia.

Reply 27

Mr JB

Original post by *Stefan*

People on benefits receive money mostly for living expenses - they do not work for it. They are given the money from the government (IE taxation) for the purpose of being able to feed and protect themselves.

No, they are given money from other hardworking taxpayers. The government has no money of its own.

Reply 28

_Fergo

Original post by Mr JB

No, they are given money from other hardworking taxpayers. The government has no money of its own.

Well, I did say "IE taxation"...

Reply 29

TheGuyReturns

Original post by Mr JB

No, they are given money from other hardworking taxpayers. The government has no money of its own.

Assuming they worked before or will work after going on benefits, then they paid for it themselves.

Reply 30

Mr JB

Original post by TheGuyReturns

Assuming they worked before or will work after going on benefits, then they paid for it themselves.

Not exactly, like for like. The UK should have a health insurance system based on contributions. National Insurance should go into your own private health insurance account for you to access. And no, before you jump down my throat and come out with some nonsense about America's healthcare system, I'm not talking about an insurance system in that manner. There are plenty of countries where contribution based health insurance systems work just fine.