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    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    I disagree. If you're at school you do PE. If you do PE, you wear what's required. If that's shorts and t-shirt that's what you wear. The teacher is obviously unaware of your reasons for not wanting to wear shorts, which probably comes across as stroppy and immature to them.

    In the real world if the dress code is a suit and tie, you wear a suit and tie. You can't just say 'I've got a personal reason that I'd rather wear a Hawaiian shirt today'. Not without getting fired. That's what the other poster was saying.

    But it does sound like the OP is having a tough time of it, and I hope that gets fixed. Maybe ask for a meeting between parents and the head of year? The dynamics of the situation will dictate who's best to talk to who. Good luck OP :-)
    There's a huge difference between wearing a Hawaiian shirt and being forced to show people scars from self harm. If you don't understand the difference why bother posting?
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    PE was BS anyway.
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    (Original post by kappaladin)
    I'm in year 11 at a school which I really struggle in. To put it bluntly, I have no friends and most people think I'm a loser. It's half term now and I literally had a nightmare about PE last night and I honestly would rather bunk than go to PE again.
    I am always the person who gets picked last. Usually I don't get picked at all. Most of the time, the teacher will ask everybody to get into groups of 4 and people would rather get into a group of 5 than let me into their group. So the teacher has to separate another group just to make space for me and then everyone (usually the popular people in the group) will get angry and do that thing where they don't say anything to me personally but they will laugh and roll their eyes with their friends about having a loser like me in their group. When we do things like basketball/netball, I am always unmarked and free yet nobody will pass it to me which makes me feel like the biggest and most unwanted social outcast that ever lived. In group work, everybody completely ignores me as though I'm invisible. In the changing rooms, I'm always that guy in the corner that has no mates and nobody talks to them.
    I also had an incident with another teacher where they told me to take off my tracksuit bottoms and change into shorts and I refused because I have fairly severe self harm over my legs. I was quite polite to her and explained that I was cold and had personal reasons as to why I prefer to wear my tracksuit and not my shorts but she wasn't having any of it. Now she's determined to make my life hell and it feels like she hates me and wants to make me suffer just as much as the other students do.
    Even when we don't do group work, I feel like I physically cannot do what they ask of me. Sometimes we will do dance or fitness routines where the teacher stands at the front and you have to copy what they do - I find this so humiliating and embarrassing that I can't bring myself to do it. I feel like everyone's watching me and laughing at me.
    I already go to the school counselor (for mental health issues which I honestly believe were partially caused by this sh*thole of a school) and I told them about my PE issues. They just told me to stick it out for the last few months of year 11. I'm not prepared to do that because the level of distress and uncomfort it causes me is too high. My parents complained and my school says 'PE is in the curriculum, sorry'.

    What can I do now?
    There is a very easy way to solve it. Get a private doctor's note, saying you can't do PE for medical reasons.
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    Have your parents actually spoken to the headteacher? When I had problems with bullying at school - I hated PE too for some of the same reasons - the heads of year didn't do anything about it and one of them behaved very unprofessionally. It wasn't until my mum took me out of school that the headteacher knew anything about the situation. She said she was shocked at what had been happening and had she known she would have done something. Make sure you actually get to speak with the headteacher, not just the heads of year or teachers.

    You could also try approaching your educational council to make a complaint or ask about changing schools? Even if you do have mental health issues and are 'self victimising' to a certain point, that is no excuse at all for people to treat you in this way. You are still a person with rights and this kind of treatment would not be acceptable in the workplace, despite the comments of some people on this thread.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    There's a huge difference between wearing a Hawaiian shirt and being forced to show people scars from self harm. If you don't understand the difference why bother posting?
    Jeez, if you don't understand analogies why bother posting?

    In the absence of a note or a meeting all the teacher sees is someone breaking the rules and saying they have 'a personal reason' for wanting to do something different. Why should one person be allowed to do that?
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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    PE was BS anyway.
    ...I did P.E as a GCSE... :crying2:
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    (Original post by kappaladin)
    I'm in year 11 at a school which I really struggle in. To put it bluntly, I have no friends and most people think I'm a loser. It's half term now and I literally had a nightmare about PE last night and I honestly would rather bunk than go to PE again.
    I am always the person who gets picked last. Usually I don't get picked at all. Most of the time, the teacher will ask everybody to get into groups of 4 and people would rather get into a group of 5 than let me into their group. So the teacher has to separate another group just to make space for me and then everyone (usually the popular people in the group) will get angry and do that thing where they don't say anything to me personally but they will laugh and roll their eyes with their friends about having a loser like me in their group. When we do things like basketball/netball, I am always unmarked and free yet nobody will pass it to me which makes me feel like the biggest and most unwanted social outcast that ever lived. In group work, everybody completely ignores me as though I'm invisible. In the changing rooms, I'm always that guy in the corner that has no mates and nobody talks to them.
    I also had an incident with another teacher where they told me to take off my tracksuit bottoms and change into shorts and I refused because I have fairly severe self harm over my legs. I was quite polite to her and explained that I was cold and had personal reasons as to why I prefer to wear my tracksuit and not my shorts but she wasn't having any of it. Now she's determined to make my life hell and it feels like she hates me and wants to make me suffer just as much as the other students do.
    Even when we don't do group work, I feel like I physically cannot do what they ask of me. Sometimes we will do dance or fitness routines where the teacher stands at the front and you have to copy what they do - I find this so humiliating and embarrassing that I can't bring myself to do it. I feel like everyone's watching me and laughing at me.
    I already go to the school counselor (for mental health issues which I honestly believe were partially caused by this sh*thole of a school) and I told them about my PE issues. They just told me to stick it out for the last few months of year 11. I'm not prepared to do that because the level of distress and uncomfort it causes me is too high. My parents complained and my school says 'PE is in the curriculum, sorry'.

    What can I do now?
    Your teachers sound like bullies - as a teacher myself I'm shocked at their attitude. Get your parents to write to the PE department and copy it to the head of pastoral care and the Headteacher - get them to demand a meeting.

    This needs sorting now - if the Head takes no notice them go to Governors and Ofsted.
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    (Original post by thecatwithnohat)
    There was a girl in my school who had very hairy legs and she told the p.e. that she was self conscious because she's shave in the morning and it would grow back by p.e. time and the teacher let her wear trackies!!!!
    That's disgusting and sad at the same time. I feel so bad for her.
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    (Original post by Francis.C)
    Really, cus' I'm a complete opposite to a "chav"
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    Your hate for PE makes me see you as that FAT kid who got chosen last, you didn't even get chosen.
    Someone's sensitive, maybe he was only half right.
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    (Original post by Francis.C)
    Really, cus' I'm a complete opposite to a "chav"
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    Your hate for PE makes me see you as that FAT kid who got chosen last, you didn't even get chosen.
    A fat kid who lifts everyday and has done so for over 2 years.

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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    A fat kid who lifts everyday and has done so for over 2 years.

    So why dislike the steeping stone/building block of fitness, PE, by stating its only chosen by "chavs" and those with "learning difficulties"?
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    (Original post by Willdono)
    Am I meant to feel sorry for you?
    I was literally just asking for advice on an issue that kind of upsets me? I'm not asking for sympathy, just advice...
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    Calling ihatePE for his definitive view on this.
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    (Original post by Francis.C)
    So why dislike the steeping stone/building block of fitness, PE, by stating its only chosen by "chavs" and those with "learning difficulties"?
    I don't dislike fitness, I dislike being told what to do by some ape who would fail an A level biology class if he had ever sat one.
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    (Original post by kappaladin)
    I was literally just asking for advice on an issue that kind of upsets me? I'm not asking for sympathy, just advice...
    Understand this and know people who have had exactly the same trouble.

    I think, as suggested, your parents should have a word with your GP and then with your Head (and only the Head).

    I know people who have cunningly arranged music lessons to avoid PE (worked a treat but depends on the school).

    But at base no school wants to give a pupil mental health issues by insisting on this sort of stuff. If you see it as a problem, it is a problem. Doesn't matter what other people think.
    The school needs to get with this. And they will if pushed enough.:yep:
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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    Lots of the chavs with learning difficulties did GCSE P.E.
    Just because someone is not as intelligent as yourself, it doesn't mean that they have learning difficulties. If everyone's strong point was maths, and everyone became a doctor less people may die, but it wouldn't be long until the sewers all became blocked and you were waking through sh*t.
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    (Original post by AlexS101)
    Just because someone is not as intelligent as yourself, it doesn't mean that they have learning difficulties. If everyone's strong point was maths, and everyone became a doctor less people may die, but it wouldn't be long until the sewers all became blocked and you were waking through sh*t.
    I don't care, P.E. was the biggest waste of time I have never been subject to in my life, I should never have been forced to take part in that.
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    OP I would always say it's better to challenge your anxieties rather than running away from them, but at the same time I do understand how you feel and ultimately if your anxieties are affecting your education as a whole it may be better to try and reduce them. In which case PE becomes less essential, you could potentially spend that time doing revision or something (although you should keep fit in your own time). I didn't take part in PE at school, I refused to take part or attend the lessons and eventually they agreed that it made more sense for me to be supervised doing something productive than skiving off somewhere. I somewhat regret being so difficult about things at school now as I don't think it helped me grow as a person or be a good person for that matter as I got used to throwing a strop and getting out of anything difficult. But at the time I don't think I could have coped with things being any other way. Are your teachers aware of your mental health difficulties? I don't really have any advice as I think it will come down to your teachers more than anything, if they are sympathetic and feel it would benefit you they might agree, if they don't understand or don't feel it would help you will just end up in detentions/excluded.
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    I had the exact same problem with you. My teachers were adamant about shorts and during the summer not wearing a jacket which was worse. In year 11 I completely bunked and stayed in the toilet for the whole hour to revise, or sometimes (every 3 weeks maybe) I'd get dressed and go to the lesson, but then during the lesson I'd run out and go to the toilet and only return when I had to. One time a teacher came in the toilets shouting for me but I ignored her and she didn't do it since.

    I just started year 12 so yaaaaayaya no more pe! Good luck though and sorry this is happening. I really think PE should be optional for this reason mostly- PE is the seed to so many embarrassing experiences that can really mess everything up in later life. All these people saying "get over it" etc have no idea what this is really like, nor have they experienced it to your level.

    I developed the "meh, this time next year it'll all be different" and "we all die in the end" mentality, so now I just don't care and do whatever makes me happy
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    Why do people not like you? Are they just massive idiots? Do you fit in?
    Has it been like this since yr 7?

    GOOD LUCK!!!
 
 
 
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