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    How does one determine they're Anglo-Saxon just by looking at them? Although I do wonder why any women not born to a Muslim family would convert to it, that's another matter entirely.
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Yup.

    I was more getting at if the OP ate pork and only pork, well they're going to be pretty damn fat, and live a short, unfulfilled life, but if that's how they want to live then go ahead.
    ok strawman
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    When balaclava's are worn by people to "get closer to God" then maybe they wouldn't be illegal. You wear a balaclava for one reason and one reason only.
    Yup: to keep warm in particularly cold weather such as the winter of 1963, and as used by British troops at the siege of Sevastopol, and named after the famous battle there. It is not illegal to wear one.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    In Western and Asian culture, civilised culture, face to face contact is important. Most communication is done non-verbally so it makes sense to be able to see the facial expressions of other people.

    I don't like people wearing hoodies with the hoods up in good weather, I don't like balaclavas, and I don't like letterbox slit fashion. This isn't a race or belief thing; it is a fundamental disrespect for civlised life.

    I don't want to converse with some chav who hides his/her face, I will literally refuse. I don't want to be near anyone who covers their face up.


    If I went to the Middle East I would dress how they dressed and modify my behaviour (e.g drinking) to their culture. If a women goes there she has to change how she dresses-so no short skirt no matter how hot it is.

    If some people come here they don't seem very interested in showing respect. They don't have to meet the standards that us non-Muslims hold ourselves to.
    I don't care if my government is a bunch of PC muppets; I will always adapt to my host country so if others don't I don't care what your religion or colour is I don't want to interact with you. I will always show my face and be polite and courteous. If you don't want to then please don't bother me.
    It's always the same- we must adapt to every culture and respect their patriotism and ideals, but when we do the same it is sad, embarrassing, the preserve of right wing looneys and the unsophisticated/provincial. It's pathetic and I can't believe supposedly intelligent people so reflexively condemn any person(in fact fairly moderate, not even right wing or especially conservative) who points out the blindingly obviousmoral stupidity of this to them.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    In Western and Asian culture, civilised culture, face to face contact is important. Most communication is done non-verbally so it makes sense to be able to see the facial expressions of other people.

    I don't like people wearing hoodies with the hoods up in good weather, I don't like balaclavas, and I don't like letterbox slit fashion. This isn't a race or belief thing; it is a fundamental disrespect for civlised life.

    I don't want to converse with some chav who hides his/her face, I will literally refuse. I don't want to be near anyone who covers their face up.


    If I went to the Middle East I would dress how they dressed and modify my behaviour (e.g drinking) to their culture. If a women goes there she has to change how she dresses-so no short skirt no matter how hot it is.

    If some people come here they don't seem very interested in showing respect. They don't have to meet the standards that us non-Muslims hold ourselves to.
    I don't care if my government is a bunch of PC muppets; I will always adapt to my host country so if others don't I don't care what your religion or colour is I don't want to interact with you. I will always show my face and be polite and courteous. If you don't want to then please don't bother me.
    I talk to people daily in head office, without ever actually seeing their face. They talk to me on the phone. A burqa is like Skype where one person has a camera, and the other one doesn't as far as I can see.

    So this whole "Oh you need to be face to face" is rubbish. We live in a world, full of different types of communication. This is coming from someone who PREFERS face to face communication as well. Plenty of people don't. Plenty of people fret face to face interviews, and prefer telephone ones. I prefer face to face interviews

    It is YOU who prefers face to face communication, not every body else. Similarly it is I who prefers face to face communication, not every body else.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Yup: to keep warm, and as used by British troops at the siege of Sevastopol, and named after the famous battle there. It is not illegal to wear one.
    Just with the eyes, worn everyday all day in all situations, sorry but that is illegal or at least frowned upon strongly-people would think you were an Irish para, or an armed robber, and be very disturbed-it has a sinister implication. C'mon man who the **** who wears one of those things is basically not saying screw everything the west stands for?
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    (Original post by arcenciel21)
    I am eating tomatoes rn, am I a tomato?
    I recently ate a Chicken legend burger from Burger King;
    Using the sound logic of this;

    1) am a chicken?
    2) am I a legend?
    3) am I a legendary chicken?

    Or is this an infantile logic?
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    I talk to people daily in head office, without ever actually seeing their face. They talk to me on the phone. A burqa is like Skype where one person has a camera, and the other one doesn't as far as I can see.

    So this whole "Oh you need to be face to face" is rubbish. We live in a world, full of different types of communication. This is coming from someone who PREFERS face to face communication as well. Plenty of people don't. Plenty of people fret face to face interviews, and prefer telephone ones. I prefer face to face interviews

    It is YOU who prefers face to face communication, not every body else. Similarly it is I who prefers face to face communication, not every body else.
    It's the niqab we are talking about in this part of the thread, and you are making typically bizarre liberal evasions in your argument. What the hell have phonecalls got to do with it? Of course it's acceptable to communicate by phone without looking at people, however if someone comes to sit in front of you MP surgery or bank with a body cloak and a pair of eyes poking out, it's not quite the same thing-it's a direct cultural statement, that says they think nothing of anything we live by.
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    It's always the same- we must adapt to every culture and respect their patriotism and ideals, but when we do the same it is sad, embarrassing, the preserve of right wing looneys and the unsophisticated/provincial. It's pathetic and I can't believe supposedly intelligent people so reflexively condemn any person(in fact fairly moderate, not even right wing or especially conservative) who points out the blindingly obviousmoral stupidity of this to them.
    The right wing are narrow minded is the common argument amongst the hypocrites. Well whilst wearing one of these I am pretty sure your world view is inevitably going to be very narrow indeed;
    http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/res...mages/2172118/
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    It's the niqab we are talking about in this part of the thread, and you are making typically bizarre liberal evasions in your argument. What the hell have phonecalls got to do with it? Of course it's acceptable to communicate by phone without looking at people, however if someone comes to sit in front of you MP surgery or bank with a body cloak and a pair of eyes poking out, it's not quite the same thing-it's a direct cultural statement, that says they think nothing of anything we live by.
    With phone calls, you never actually see the person you're talking to.... And OP, I'd say it is YOU who doesn't value what the UK stands for. One of those is "the freedom to wear what you want" and another of those is "the freedom to religion"
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    Just with the eyes, worn everyday all day in all situations, sorry but that is illegal or at least frowned upon strongly-people would think you were an Irish para, or an armed robber, and be very disturbed-it has a sinister implication. C'mon man who the **** who wears one of those things is basically not saying screw everything the west stands for?
    It is not illegal, and wouldn't even have been illegal under the famous abandoned parliamentary bill of 2010, as long as the primary purpose for wearing it was warmth. If we have a winter like that of 1963 again I'm sure people will be wearing them. I certainly would. Alpine skiers wear them.

    Obviously, you wouldn't wear one in warmer weather, nor for any other purpose than keeping warm.

    And no properly free woman would wear a burqa or niqab, either.
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    It's the niqab we are talking about in this part of the thread, and you are making typically bizarre liberal evasions in your argument. What the hell have phonecalls got to do with it? Of course it's acceptable to communicate by phone without looking at people, however if someone comes to sit in front of you MP surgery or bank with a body cloak and a pair of eyes poking out, it's not quite the same thing-it's a direct cultural statement, that says they think nothing of anything we live by.
    Those covered head to toe, with only their eyes showing, used to be something so noble;
    http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/ima.../medium/61.png

    A knight.

    How times have changed;
    http://whyihateeverything.co.uk/wp-c...inbag_Crew.jpg
    http://thepolar.net/wp-content/uploa...ace_28915c.jpg

    I am happy to not see somebodies face if they are fighting, through military action, to defend their nation or people. Otherwise no.
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    With phone calls, you never actually see the person you're talking to.... And OP, I'd say it is YOU who doesn't value what the UK stands for. One of those is "the freedom to wear what you want" and another of those is "the freedom to religion"
    Why are you just repeating the blindingly obvious to me, I understood that the first time. My point is that you have drawn an obtuse comparison that is illogical. Can you reread my post.

    No, I do value it, and I see what opportunist hypocrites some liberals are- 'We want gay and women's rights, and freedom of religion'. They then act entirely oblivious to the threat that Islam poses to the aforementioned, eager to attack and smear those who point out this obvious fact as bigots.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    http://thepolar.net/wp-content/uploa...ace_28915c.jpg

    I am happy to not see somebodies face if they are fighting, through military action, to defend their nation or people. Otherwise no.
    Lol, now how can you say that is not sinister?
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    It is not illegal, and wouldn't even have been illegal under the famous abandoned parliamentary bill of 2010, as long as the primary purpose for wearing it was warmth. If we have a winter like that of 1963 again I'm sure people will be wearing them. I certainly would. Alpine skiers wear them.

    Obviously, you wouldn't wear one in warmer weather, nor for any other purpose than keeping warm.

    And no properly free woman would wear a burqa or niqab, either.
    BS, They wear them in the summer, I've seen them, c'mon man people wearing niqabs are not in frozen Canadian winters protecting themselves from frostbite nor skiers on the alps- the material is so thin anyhow. They wouldn't wear western cold gear. You are making, once again, typically evasive and odd arguments, like many liberals when faced with reality. Why are you talking about alpine gear?
    Ifshe isn't free enough to not wear a niqab( I believe most of them choose) then that's also clearly a big problem for our nation.
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    Yep I have seen a massive increase of this in birmingham.
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    Not for the moment- they will want to eventually. Muslims are not interested in 'multiculturalism' and people who think they are live in a fantasy world.
    I'm a Muslim and I love multiculturalism and respect it. Just because you don't know that doesn't mean it is how you think it is. I certainly don't live in a 'fantasy world'.
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    (Original post by Bubblewrap167)
    I'm a Muslim and I love multiculturalism and respect it. Just because you don't know that doesn't mean it is how you think it is. I certainly don't live in a 'fantasy world'.
    Well it sucks. Multiracialism is great, multicuturalism will lead to civil war, or the gradual dissolution of a country -you cannot create a common identity with it.
    You think it's good that third generation immigrants want to fight in Syria, or go join ISIS? Or that they still speak the language of their grandparents as their first? That schools have to draught in foreign language experts to deal with all the kids at them? That everyone knows nothing of our history, and has no respect for it? That kids are being taught jihad and sexual segregation in faith schools? You call that success?

    I don't mean to be aggressive to you on a personal level, but these are my problems with this issue.
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    Well it sucks. Multiracialism is great, multicuturalism will lead to civil war, or the gradual dissolution of a country -you cannot create a common identity with it.
    You think it's good that third generation immigrants want to fight in Syria, or go join ISIS? Or that they still speak the language of their grandparents as their first? That schools have to draught in foreign language experts to deal with all the kids at them? That everyone knows nothing of our history, and has no respect for it? That kids are being taught jihad and sexual segregation in faith schools? You call that success?
    Do you realize how ignorant you are being? Most people in my school aren't native to the British Isles yet their first language is English. In fact, many of them don't even speak the language that their (grand)parents speak, or at least not very fluently. There aren't that many cases where schools have to draw in foreign language experts, they just get some teachers who teach literacy to start off with then the students just carry on with learning the new language by interacting with other students that they are surrounded by.

    I don't know much about the faith schools but I'm sure that most of them don't teach extremist values and if they do, they are most likely someone who has already joined some radical extremist groups and therefore not teaching the true values of their religion.
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    I have indeed noticed this where I live. And soon the pressure will be on all women to wear these things. One day, I do expect women to be told, by our benevolent government, that we must wear the headscarfs out of respect to muslims. Wait and see.
    Disgraceful, actually in some towns where number of religious ******s is high there are actually people just walking in groups and harassing women dressed "in revealing clothing", people smoking etc... Sadly our government turns a blind eye on such occurrences.
 
 
 
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