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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    It's neither, the closest place to it is Macosquin, and seeing as Ulster is the broadest region of Ireland the plant sits in I figured that was a decent name for it.
    Then why did you say it was near Coleraine? I thought my local geography was messed up!
    Just call it the Derry power plant, it's within county Derry and its part of the NI assembly's East Derry constituency.

    Also don't call it "LondonDerry" because the law was officially changed to Derry a few months ago - the unionists are just trying to hold it back as long as they can


    Great research into each area though and a well-thought out bill overall, liked the map
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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Has the fence been proven to work yet? If so, why not one for the Humber Estuary too?

    Also, as much as I love nuclear fission; is there a compromise that could be struck for less of it?

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    I feel that seeing as there will be a nuclear power station there, as well as the off shore wind farm factory siemens have set up in Hull, that there'll be more than enough in that region to satisfy.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Then why did you say it was near Coleraine? I thought my local geography was messed up!
    Just call it the Derry power plant, it's within county Derry and its part of the NI assembly's East Derry constituency.

    Also don't call it "LondonDerry" because the law was officially changed to Derry a few months ago - the unionists are just trying to hold it back as long as they can


    Great research into each area though and a well-thought out bill overall, liked the map
    Macosquin is near enough to Coleraine, so if people don't know then they have both as well as the map to pin point more or less where the plant will be stationed. Also, I quite like it being called Ulster, it has a ring to it.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    Macosquin is near enough to Coleraine, so if people don't know then they have both as well as the map to pin point more or less where the plant will be stationed. Also, I quite like it being called Ulster, it has a ring to it.
    As does United Ireland.

    Go on, write that bill.

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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    As does United Ireland.

    Go on, write that bill.

    And lose the Plant!!!?!?!?! You must be joking

    (In all seriousness though, this is something you should take up with the minister for constitutional reform and devolution)
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    Fully support this. Good to see short-term nuclear support.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Fully support this. Good to see short-term nuclear support.
    Cheers!!
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    I feel that seeing as there will be a nuclear power station there, as well as the off shore wind farm factory siemens have set up in Hull, that there'll be more than enough in that region to satisfy.
    Nicely avoiding the second question, I see.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Nicely avoiding the second question, I see.

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    Not at all it's been fully developed by Oxford University and Kepler industries.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    The fences developed at oxford university with Kepler have undergone serious testing and by all means are fit for purpose.
    I am aware of where it was conceptualised. Nevertheless, there is no existing installation of the technology, only the 1km planned in the Bristol Channel which as I said again, is estimated to be operational from 2020/21. It hasn't been proven outside of an academic setting.

    How will the Scottish Highland plant be built when the Scottish Government voted to oppose new nuclear plants? Whilst you have control over energy policy, they have control over planning permission and have historically used that to block new plants.
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    I am aware of where it was conceptualised. Nevertheless, there is no installation of the technology, other than the 1km planned in the Bristol Channel which as I said again, is estimated to be operational from 2020/21. It hasn't been proven outside of an academic setting.

    How will the Scottish Highland plant be built when the Scottish Government voted to oppose new nuclear plants? Whilst you have control over energy policy, they have control over planning permission and have historically used that to block new plants.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    And lose the Plant!!!?!?!?! You must be joking

    (In all seriousness though, this is something you should take up with the minister for constitutional reform and devolution)
    Did not realise there was one of those.
    If the SP get into power I'm having that
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    Not at all it's been fully developed by Oxford University and Kepler industries.
    I was asking about maybe less fission power plants with my second question?

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    (Original post by The Financier)
    I am aware of where it was conceptualised. Nevertheless, there is no existing installation of the technology, only the 1km planned in the Bristol Channel which as I said again, is estimated to be operational from 2020/21. It hasn't been proven outside of an academic setting.
    2020/21 is too late in all honesty, if we're to meet our emissions targets we need to be investing in new renewables right now. These have the potential to be beyond amazing, not quite the output of a barrage but much cheaper and much less cost to local eco systems.

    How will the Scottish Highland plant be built when the Scottish Government voted to oppose new nuclear plants? Whilst you have control over energy policy, they have control over planning permission and have historically used that to block new plants.
    Considering there's no TSR Scottish government to oppose it...
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    I am aware of where it was conceptualised. Nevertheless, there is no existing installation of the technology, only the 1km planned in the Bristol Channel which as I said again, is estimated to be operational from 2020/21. It hasn't been proven outside of an academic setting.

    How will the Scottish Highland plant be built when the Scottish Government voted to oppose new nuclear plants? Whilst you have control over energy policy, they have control over planning permission and have historically used that to block new plants.
    I'd just like to weigh in on that last point: Canon Amendment - we can ignore the Scottish Parliament in the same way that we can ignore the EU. Essentially the MHoC acts as the devolved body.
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    (Original post by Andy98)
    I was asking about maybe less fission power plants with my second question?

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    Oh sorry. These are rather small nuclear plants, not like the one we'll be seeing in somerset soon. They also only have a lifespan of 40/50 years, which makes them perfect as temporary clean energy while we develop more renewables.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    Oh sorry. These are rather small nuclear plants, not like the one we'll be seeing in somerset soon. They also only have a lifespan of 40/50 years, which makes them perfect as temporary clean energy while we develop more renewables.
    Ahhhh so they're purely temporary fixtures while the infrastructure is put in place? Nice thinking.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Ahhhh so they're purely temporary fixtures while the infrastructure is put in place? Nice thinking.

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    Aye, bear in mind that I am an ex-green.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    Aye, bear in mind that I am an ex-green.
    I know

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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    2020/21 is too late in all honesty, if we're to meet our emissions targets we need to be investing in new renewables right now. These have the potential to be beyond amazing, not quite the output of a barrage but much cheaper and much less cost to local eco systems.



    Considering there's no TSR Scottish government to oppose it...
    Fusion has the potential to be more than amazing, are you going to invest in that because one of the big researchers claimed either earlier this year or last year they'd made it viable? There are some things that if they work in the lab they work, this is not one of them.

    Can you also remind me of the carbon emissions per unit energy for nuclear please?

    There is also no real reason to potentially compromise energy supply over a piece of paper

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