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    The irony of Nigel seconding an amendment against Nigel and inactive seconders trying to dictate MHoC regulations.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Well that says a lot about your TSR party's ability to present its own argument, record and policies without needing to resort to ridiculous quantities of images.
    Not really, UKIP proposed more policies in its manifesto than any other party on TSR so your point is a null point, but on policies that are the same to real life UKIP policies, it shows agreement.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I disagree, I would only agree to these changes if party logos, party names, and party colours were not used in the manifestos.
    I assume you mean RL party logos/names/colours? I would support that.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I assume you mean RL party logos/names/colours? I would support that.
    All party names, colours, and logos; there could be a system where people vote for the manifesto in the poll, not the party.

    Life_peer It is likely going to pass because the Liberals do not want to upset their dear leader in Saracen's Fez who is proposing this amendment.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    All party names, colours, and logos; there could be a system where people vote for the manifesto in the poll, not the party.

    Life_peer It is likely going to pass because the Liberals do not want to upset their dear leader in Saracen's Fez who is proposing this amendment.
    That would be cool but I think it would damage turnout. I'd also limit manifesto length to 100-200 words in that case.
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    I once considered anonymous manifestos. I just realised that it would mean zero accountability and people couldn't question the people up for election
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I disagree, I would only agree to these changes if party logos, party names, and party colours were not used in the manifestos.
    Party logos I don't necessarily disagree with, but the name "Labour" for example could refer to any of a huge number of Labour Parties across the world. Likewise all sorts of parties use the colour red.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, manifestos should be able to contain anything the party wants them to contain while keeping to the limit.
    How come you seconded it then?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I once considered anonymous manifestos. I just realised that it would mean zero accountability and people couldn't question the people up for election
    The parties could be given anonymising names and answer via the speaker.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The parties could be given anonymising names and answer via the speaker.
    It seems like a whole lot of work you have to admit.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The parties could be given anonymising names and answer via the speaker.
    How would they be held to account later on?
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    This is a House of the written word not some media studies course and so an Aye from me.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    How would they be held to account later on?
    Once the election's over, it can be revealed which one's which.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    All party names, colours, and logos; there could be a system where people vote for the manifesto in the poll, not the party.

    Life_peer It is likely going to pass because the Liberals do not want to upset their dear leader in Saracen's Fez who is proposing this amendment.
    Sorry. I didn't realise that we're not allowed to agree with Labour on absolutely anything. I also didn't realise that when we agree on things it automatically means us submitting to Labour.


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    Aye. A reduction in the trivialisation of manafestos is, in my opinion, for the best.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    All party names, colours, and logos; there could be a system where people vote for the manifesto in the poll, not the party.

    Life_peer It is likely going to pass because the Liberals do not want to upset their dear leader in Saracen's Fez who is proposing this amendment.
    The Liberals never actually genuinely agree with us on anything, do they? It's always that they've just repressed their own opinions and are blindly following us:rolleyes:

    Aye. No more 12 Nigels for Ukip.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Labour's manifesto would have had a few lines deleted, the Liberal manifesto would have had two small photos replace, but UKIP's manifesto would have had one page deleted, one page half deleted, and the other pages left with big gaps in; one party would have been disproportionately impacted.
    The GD clearly states that manifesto's are limited to two images. By submitting the manifesto as an image so that you can include as many pictures as you want, you are clearly going against the spirit of the GD by abusing a loophole to extreme levels. This amendment significantly reduces the impact of the loophole so aye.

    If you are reliant on a cult figure to get votes, then you are clearly failing as a party to present your policy. Look at this as an opportunity to improve yourselves
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    (Original post by cBay)
    The GD clearly states that manifesto's are limited to two images. By submitting the manifesto as an image so that you can include as many pictures as you want, you are clearly going against the spirit of the GD by abusing a loophole to extreme levels. This amendment significantly reduces the impact of the loophole so aye.

    If you are reliant on a cult figure to get votes, then you are clearly failing as a party to present your policy. Look at this as an opportunity to improve yourselves
    UKIP does not need images of Nigel to attract votes as a cult
 
 
 
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