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    Breaking news: Crime soars.
    That is a statement with simply no evidence to back it up.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    That is a statement with simply no evidence to back it up.
    So with reduction in arbitrary detention times prisons will fill up?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So with reduction in arbitrary detention times prisons will fill up?
    Would you be pleased if you were innocent and held for 60 days in a prison?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Would you be pleased if you were innocent and held for 60 days in a prison?
    Not particularly, but I would rather people actually get convicted, I tend to try to avoid letting petty emotion get in the way.
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    Nay, people promoting terrorism should go back and promote terrorism at their country?
    If someone is found promoting terrorism they should go through trial in the UK and be punished accordingly.
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    I can support this but it needs some amendment. While s2(2) may extend to those who would be made stateless, especially after the Belmarsh case, I'd rather that were clarified, especially considering s2(4) clearly does not. That is my main problem at the moment.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I do not believe the UK should shelter any proven terrorists, regardless of whether they are British citizens or not. I would be slightly concerned that people who have not had a properly trial may be deported as well so this would have to be regulated carefully. However, something needs to be done about this ever-present issue so it is an aye from me.
    That can be done by the courts - this doesn't differ that much from the existing law.
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    It should be lowered, is my point. I definitely won't agree to an increase, so it's a firm Nay.
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    Nay, extremist is too loose, 60 days too long.
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    I'm not sure which bit of the definition people are struggling with so much is it the "violence" bit or the "ideologically motivated", neither of those are particularly complex or vague, either that or I've been overestimating the intelligence of this place for quite some time.
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    I can trust the court system and judge interpretation on "extremism".

    3 is a problem though.
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    I am just interested in how this needed when we have this

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3607595
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    I am just interested in how this needed when we have this

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3607595
    Are both texts to the same effect? No? There you go.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are both texts to the same effect? No? There you go.
    I'd suggest 2(4) is covered by that bill, and that the parts of that bill which change anything could be better done as an amendment rather than a new bill
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    Nay... 60 days... seriously..
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    Aye Aye Aye!
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    Cessation.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Cessation.
    Is it? Is it really?
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    Is it? Is it really?
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