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    We are first and foremost a contextualised debating club. That is what we have always been.
    Then maybe bother with said context?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Then maybe bother with said context?
    The idea being that the main purpose is to have a debate.

    Once upon a time submitting a bill or statement in response to a motion would be considered negatively: rather than stimulate a new debate you are flogging a dead horse by trying to start a debate we have just had.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    The idea being that the main purpose is to have a debate.

    Once upon a time submitting a bill or statement in response to a motion would be considered negatively: rather than stimulate a new debate you are flogging a dead horse by trying to start a debate we have just had.
    Then people should have stuck in UK politics.
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    Nay. Libraries being closed because there's less demand. Books are cheaper, and much more freely available online (speaking from the experience of a history student who rarely visits the library). Municipal libraries are often dingy places anyway. Let's focus on preserving the nice ones for their beauty, and not waste money on the ones for which there is little need.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Originally designed and, at least in my time here, executed.

    Just because you're here now doesn't mean we have to change.
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    Jammy Duel Nigel Farage MEP despite not being an exact model of the RL HoC, isn't the beauty of some of these shorter motions that certain members, who do not have the time or energy most of the time to wade through lengthy prose, have an opportunity to engage more with the MHoC? I'm quite sure that this motion has said what needs to be said; to make it a piece of epic literature seems quite unnecessary to me.
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    Jammy Duel Nigel Farage MEP despite not being an exact model of the RL HoC, isn't the beauty of some of these shorter motions that certain members, who do not have the time or energy most of the time to wade through lengthy prose, have an opportunity to engage more with the MHoC? I'm quite sure that this motion has said what needs to be said; to make it a piece of epic literature seems quite unnecessary to me.
    If a paragraph or two is too much to read I suggest the member resigns their seat, for how could they possibly hope to cope with bills, statements (when they actually happen) and amendments, which are generally longer and more complicated in terms of the contents?

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    Jammy Duel At this stage a motion should be expected from the Green Party, or the Lazy Party which is more apt, there have been no bills from the Green Party, or Green Party members in a long while.
    Did you miss my catholicism restoration bill?

    Also another PMB is on the queue.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Jammy Duel At this stage a motion should be expected from the Green Party, or the Lazy Party which is more apt, there have been no bills from the Green Party, or Green Party members in a long while.
    The Bill on the CofE, on Modelling and Image, on Rail Fares, and on School Meals have all been debated and voted on during the past month, and two motions.

    I refer the Honourable Member also to the Motion and Bill Challenge.

    Back to the subject of the motion, the suggestions made about digital content has some validity, but access is not available for all. The British Library is an essential part of our culture, but a long way to travel for those who live outside London and the South East.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Jammy Duel At this stage a motion should be expected from the Green Party, or the Lazy Party which is more apt, there have been no bills from the Green Party, or Green Party members in a long while.
    Clear to see you don't pay attention

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    Nay , for reasons already mentioned
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    Libraries are so more than just books. They are also a place for me to meet other mothers with children the same age as mine, they are a place for my daughter to meet other children her age. I take her to events for children her age at my local branch library. They will be a place for her to attend events when she is older. Most of these events are free, so they encourage children from less well off groups to attend. I don't know what I would do if my branch library closed.
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    I think it is very sad that libraries have been a victim of Tory cuts. I personally think libraries are great and luckily, my local town still has one. I think the downfall of the library can partly be attributed to the introduction of e-books. I understand why some people like these but for those who do not, such as me, there is nothing better than a solid book. Therefore, my answer to this bill is aye.
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    Unfortunately with the RL tories slashing funding for local governments, councils have their hands tied to exactly what services they are able to deliver.
    I was wondering why our local council was quite so bad...until I realised it was Conservative.
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    This video highlights the problems of library closures in a musical way.
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    I know of a library in my town which was just built :yy:
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    If a paragraph or two is too much to read I suggest the member resigns their seat, for how could they possibly hope to cope with bills, statements (when they actually happen) and amendments, which are generally longer and more complicated in terms of the contents?

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    But what is the point in a paragraph or two when a statement can be far more concise?
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    Saracen's Fez Stop trying to remove the context from the contextualised debating club by supporting moves to put everything in a weak statement form. This motion does not have context to it, the motion is a statement expressing anger at the closing of libraries, it belong in UK Politics where statements like this are debated, not the MHoC. The idea of context is debating proposed laws, or debating the actions a government minister makes, debating a lazy statement ignores the context.

    thehistorybore If there are individuals who do not have the time to read a bill I would prefer it if those individuals do not both taking part in the MHoC. The MHoC should not start lowering its standards to cater for the lowest common denominator to attract those lazy members who write statements when a bill is more apt, or think a motion with no impact is acceptable in a game simulating Parliament.

    Andy98 Little Toy Gun barnetlad The Church of England Bill was submitted on the 3rd February, the Photographic Image and Modelling Bill was on the 12th February, the Rail Fares Bill arrived on the 13th February, and Little Toy Gun's bill was on the 1st March. A party who has not submitted a bill for nearly two months, and whose members have not submitted a bill for a month is a lazy party; stop living off the past.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Andy98 Little Toy Gun barnetlad The Church of England Bill was submitted on the 3rd February, the Photographic Image and Modelling Bill was on the 12th February, the Rail Fares Bill arrived on the 13th February, and Little Toy Gun's bill was on the 1st March. A party who has not submitted a bill for nearly two months, and whose members have not submitted a bill for a month is a lazy party; stop living off the past.
    Apart from Adam's bills, when is the last time your party or its members submitted something remotely sensible?
 
 
 
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