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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So umbrella that you can't even get most of them into the party
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    Yes we can...Just ask Mactotaur or ChaoticButterfly, they're probably our most fundamentalist socialists/communists.
    The closest leftists to centre tend to be Labour - obviously - but if you look at our past members who have become Labour members, they've quickly become part of the elite of Labour - Saoirse (possibly), Milibanter, Saracen's Fez
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    Yes we can...Just ask Mactotaur or ChaoticButterfly, they're probably our most fundamentalist socialists/communists.
    The closest leftists to centre tend to be Labour - obviously - but if you look at our past members who have become Labour members, they've quickly become part of the elite of Labour - Saoirse (possibly), Milibanter, Saracen's Fez
    Last I checked half of labour were still in Labour

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Last I checked half of labour were still in Labour

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    That statement makes no sense...
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
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    Yes we can...Just ask Mactotaur or ChaoticButterfly, they're probably our most fundamentalist socialists/communists.
    Hello, Jammy Duel.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    That statement makes no sense...
    Half of labour should be in the socialists, yet for so!e reason they are not

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Half of labour should be in the socialists, yet for so!e reason they are not

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    Many of them previously were in the Socialist Party, though they left before I was active so I can't comment on the reasons they left.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Half of labour should be in the socialists, yet for so!e reason they are not

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    We're getting there, just a bit more infoo....
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    (Original post by Unown Uzer)
    Today, I am officially announcing the creation of the TSR Revolutionary Communist Party. Over the recent months, I have found myself moving further and further to the left, and have found myself disgusted at some of the views some of the other Ukippers have. I will not name any names in particular, but I am very concerned that some TSR UKIP reactionaries not only support the exploitation of the proletariat, but feed off of the workers' suffering. In addition to that, I'm sick and tired of the racism and bigotry in TSR UKIP.

    We in this world are one people. The workers of the world are all being exploited, but the corporatist media and the bourgeoisie have, through their cunning evilness, distracted us from the elephant in the room - the enemy is not our fellow worker on the other side of the world; the enemy is the bourgeois class. The question we as workers have to ask is: "why on earth are we helping our oppressors oppress each other?" The bourgeoisie do not care if the workers suffer or die; they only care about maximising their profit.

    We, the exploited, the oppressed, need to unite to end this injustice, or the bourgeoisie will continue to exploit we the workers to an ever greater extent. As the Communist Manifesto states: "Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance in that class." Such is the class struggle between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. Of course they don't want communism. They enjoy their luxuries at the expense of the working class' suffering. We the workers must not let them get away with this tyranny - the tyranny of the bourgeoisie. But they have been preventing this.

    Borders are the barriers that prevent the revolution of the proletariat. They are the barriers that prevent the unity of the workers. They are the barriers that prevent our victory in the class struggle. Unless we bring down borders and eliminate the outdated concept of the nation state, we shall forever be oppressed.

    In conclusion, let me quote a very wise man: "Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workingmen of all countries unite!” - Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Well, whenever anybody suggests that socialism has been tried and failed they get bombarded by people claiming nothing anywhere near socialism has every been tried and it has instead been dodgy communism, yet you just declared socialism to be dodgy communism
    As someone whose studied the history of 20th century China, in actual fact they never achieved the Communist state they wanted and it collapsed. If memory serves me correctly.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    As someone whose studied the history of 20th century China, in actual fact they never achieved the Communist state they wanted and it collapsed. If memory serves me correctly.
    China is the only nation to have tried any form of extreme left wing ideology in recent times?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    China is the only nation to have tried any form of extreme left wing ideology in recent times?
    No but the point people make is "oh thats not socialism that's communism" well no that was socialism, communism was supposed to be the next step.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    China is the only nation to have tried any form of extreme left wing ideology in recent times?
    North Korea?
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    No but the point people make is "oh thats not socialism that's communism" well no that was socialism, communism was supposed to be the next step.
    Pretty sure it's the other way around, communism is the stepping stone to socialism.
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    I wish there was a mainstream left-wing party(in real life I mean) who aren't unpatriotic terrorist sympathisers. I could never bring myself to vote Tory no matter how much of a plonker I think Corbyn is.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Pretty sure it's the other way around, communism is the stepping stone to socialism.
    I'm certain that's false.

    By the way I wonder if i can pick your brains about something logic related. I have a thread about the material conditional on both the maths and philosophy study help threads, can you take a look?
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    I'm certain that's false.

    By the way I wonder if i can pick your brains about something logic related. I have a thread about the material conditional on both the maths and philosophy study help threads, can you take a look?
    link please
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    link please
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...1#post63834361
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    We're getting there, just a bit more infoo....
    Are you seriously considering making this party a real thing?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Are you seriously considering making this party a real thing?
    No he just kept writing stuff and not finishing the sentence, so in that instance he didn't exactly explain what the hell that sentence meant And no, there's no point: the SP is essentially a catch-all party from demsocs to utra-leftists and post-leftists (although I believe that there's only one of these)
    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Pretty sure it's the other way around, communism is the stepping stone to socialism.
    No...achieving socialism eventually transitions to communism. Those who try to make the jump, especially in 20th century, end up turning it into a deformed workers' state - an authoritarian bureacracy/dictatorship, not socialism. True socialism is not authoritarian.
 
 
 
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