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    Apparently ISIS have already got some radioactive material from universities they've captured in Iraq. Luckily it's not radioactive enough cause much harm though.


    (Original post by Aj12)
    Well no. MAD only applies when you are dealing with rational players. Nuclear weapons certainly stop wars, but only when certain conditions apply, rational players, warning times, etc.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Dirty bombs aren't that scary tbh
    You'd probably think differently if you were caught in the middle of an attack. A conventional bomb is pretty limited and once it's gone off the clear up is usually relatively straightforward. A highly radioactive material would effectively create no go zones for dozens/hundreds of years, cause heavy casualties immediately and badly affect the long term health of those not given a lethal dose too.
    Any kind of chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear attack in the West would cause far more concern than even a coordinated conventional attack.
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    (Original post by Tempest II)
    Apparently ISIS have already got some radioactive material from universities they've captured in Iraq. Luckily it's not radioactive enough cause much harm though.

    You'd probably think differently if you were caught in the middle of an attack. A conventional bomb is pretty limited and once it's gone off the clear up is usually relatively straightforward. A highly radioactive material would effectively create no go zones for dozens/hundreds of years, cause heavy casualties immediately and badly affect the long term health of those not given a lethal dose too.
    Any kind of chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear attack in the West would cause far more concern than even a coordinated conventional attack.
    True, but even if ISIS managed to made a dirty bomb in Syria or Iraq, that's a big difference to getting it into the West. How would they smuggle it in (the weapons and bombs for the Paris and Brussels attacks were acquired locally)? The more likely victim of such an attack would likely be Turkey, sadly for them.
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    (Original post by Tempest II)
    You'd probably think differently if you were caught in the middle of an attack. A conventional bomb is pretty limited and once it's gone off the clear up is usually relatively straightforward. A highly radioactive material would effectively create no go zones for dozens/hundreds of years, cause heavy casualties immediately and badly affect the long term health of those not given a lethal dose too.
    Any kind of chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear attack in the West would cause far more concern than even a coordinated conventional attack.
    Depends on the materials used
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    Tbh I haven't seen any bombs clean up after themselves....
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    (Original post by anarchism101)
    True, but even if ISIS managed to made a dirty bomb in Syria or Iraq, that's a big difference to getting it into the West. How would they smuggle it in (the weapons and bombs for the Paris and Brussels attacks were acquired locally)? The more likely victim of such an attack would likely be Turkey, sadly for them.
    I'd like to think they wouldn't be able to due to NATO/EU/FVEYs intelligence services and border controls. But with thousands of people coming into the EU from Iraq and Syria it certainly makes the the job of the Intel services that bit harder and the job of the terrorists easier.
    There was reports of jihadists wanting to kidnap a Belgian nuclear power station worker and his family to force him to get them radioactive material.
    News reports suggest that 11 Belgium nuclear power station workers have been suspended due to jihadist connections too. Again, I'd like to think it's not easy to get material of out these areas due to security and Intel services but it'd be dangerous to dismiss plots like these as no threat whatsoever.


    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Depends on the materials used
    Agreed but I reckon even a low grade "dirty" bomb would cause a lot of public outrage and fear as it's technically a WMD.
 
 
 
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