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    But if you are in a bus for instance that is considered as public even thought the bus is private property. And in a shop when it's open all members of the public can go in whenever they want?
    A bus isn't considered as public under this Bill, or indeed most of the law. The exception is public obscenity/indecency legislation, but that uses a dramatically different definition of 'public'.
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    Aye ! A fantastic bill that deals with extremism with a heavy hand but issues firm and fair Punishments for people preaching religion in a public place
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Nay. We live in a free, democratic country. Just because we don't like what an Islamic hate preacher is saying doesn't mean they don't have a right to say it, unless of course it directly incites violence.
    Agreed.

    Even if I was crazy enough to support the idea behind this bill, the change would be something that would have to be phased in over time for it to work.

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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    A bus isn't considered as public under this Bill, or indeed most of the law. The exception is public obscenity/indecency legislation, but that uses a dramatically different definition of 'public'.
    Oh... That's suprising. I mean for one I would have said that a public space should be anywhere where the general public can easily access or see. So front gardens for example. Anywhere you can take pictures of people without needing permission should be considered public.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Nay. We live in a free, democratic country. Just because we don't like what an Islamic hate preacher is saying doesn't mean they don't have a right to say it, unless of course it directly incites violence.
    Hear, hear.
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    It's not really a secularisation bill, which would involve a comprehensive separation of church and state like France. This is more like an act to monitor and prevent religious extremism, so the title is a bit of a misnomer.

    To that end, this bill isn't exactly effective. Stopping funding of mosques from gulf states is just as important as stopping funding of terror organisations, and merely making accounts known is insufficient. Also, no mention of so-called Sharia courts. To focus on pamphlets being handed out rather than these glaring issues means the bill misses the mark somewhat.

    Given this inefficacy, the restrictions on freedom of religion do not appear to be justified.

    Though I'm not exactly fond of Islam and am favourable to a more secular society, this bill is not the correct approach.

    Nay
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    Lol, none of the feedback we gave you was taken into consideration. Good luck trying to pass this.

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    My God, fascism is alive and well...
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    Aye! An excellent bill written by our new MP.
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    Well I guess we will all have it in our manifestos that UKIP hate religion.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Well I guess we will all have it in our manifestos that UKIP hate religion.
    Which is inherently bad, why?
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    Well I guess we will all have it in our manifestos that UKIP hate religion.
    I would have expected UKIP to want us all to be Anglicans. Did they not vote against the disestablishment of the C of E?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Which is inherently bad, why?
    Why is wanting to save a bird bad?
    And it's not but it will cause public outrage...
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    I would have expected UKIP to want us all to be Anglicans. Did they not vote against the disestablishment of the C of E?
    They did indeed. I can't explain it.
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    You really do not

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    I feel that this is focusing mainly on one religion in particular...
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    For instance, Muslims are known to need to pray at specific times, even if that requires them to say a prayer of some sort in public. Trying to ban prayer in public will be hitting Muslims hardest.
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    Ermmmm, long hard think... and... Nay!
 
 
 
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