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    Kill it with fire, immediately. :headfire:
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    My uni aren't a part of the NUS and I'm kinda glad. They're far too political.
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    Banning it because we don't agree with it is such a student thing to do.
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    The NUS does things other than discount cards that you use about once per year? That's news to me.

    Anyway we don't need it, students are one of the most protected, mollycoddled and voiceful groups in society. The demographic's ability to write semi-legibly, have the spare time to organise campaigns/protest and condemn opposing viewpoints means they have no problem representing themselves.
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    When I was at Uni very few seemed to give a crap about it, and from an outsider looking in it seemed more like a niche group for people who either wanted some popularity or were likely on a trajectory to becoming involved in politics.

    And I was a student before social media poisoned everything and no-platforming was only popping up once or twice. By and large I think the majority of students either don't care or view it as a joke, personally I usually didn't care until they did something student-uniony to piss me off.
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    I'd be against abolishing a national union for students as much as I might complain about them. No body as large and with such aligned interests should be without union representation, but I do feel as though NUS sometimes engages in politics where it shouldn't and in that sense goes beyond its remit - i.e. specifically targeting the Lib Dems at the 2015 election and not mentioning that tuition fee increases were a Conservative policy. Reform please, but what else would a wishy-washy centrist like me say? ^_^
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    (Original post by Star Light)
    The NUS does things other than discount cards that you use about once per year? That's news to me.

    Anyway we don't need it, students are one of the most protected, mollycoddled and voiceful groups in society. The demographic's ability to write semi-legibly, have the spare time to organise campaigns/protest and condemn opposing viewpoints means they have no problem representing themselves.
    I'm sorry but that patently isn't true. Politically at the moment it is not that costly to go against the interest of students, because many of them (infuriatingly) don't vote. If you want to talk mollycoddled, talk triple lock on pensions during government austerity.

    'Representing themselves' and being represented are entirely different things.
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    (Original post by neb789)
    But haven't students always been relatively apathetic?
    It's partly apathy. It's also partly antipathy.

    The student union lot are a particular (and particularly unbearable) clique that most students want absolutely nothing to do with.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    It's partly apathy. It's also partly antipathy.

    The student union lot are a particular (and particularly unbearable) clique that most students want absolutely nothing to do with.
    Well you're not wrong!
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    My uni aren't a part of the NUS and I'm kinda glad. They're far too political.
    Which uni is that?
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    The NUS are vastly unrepresentative of the national student body as it's all just a left-wing bunch of people playing sixth form politics. I challenged the NUS president at our latest SU AGM on the loan changes - about how actually it was a positive change for many and doesn't actually prevent people from going to uni. She just shrugged it off.

    When I asked about real issues, such as halls accommodation prices being astronomical, she couldn't answer the question. I can't even remember the last time I was asked to vote for an NUS president (which I should have, at least once, in the last 5 years). :dontknow:

    Saying that the NUS should be abolished because it's unrepresentative is not the same as saying we should ban it because we don't agree with it. Every uni student is automatically a member of their SU, therefore a member of the NUS (apart from those who aren't NUS-affiliated). They spout utter **** and need to be gone.

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    (Original post by neb789)
    Which uni is that?
    Dundee Uni. We're part of some other group which has been inactive for 5 years now I think.
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    They need some drastic changes based on the things I've been hearing them saying.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Dundee Uni. We're part of some other group which has been inactive for 5 years now I think.
    Fair enough, I'd assumed it was compulsory for universities!
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    (Original post by neb789)
    Fair enough, I'd assumed it was compulsory for universities!
    Dundee held a vote and left. Then about 4 years ago another vote was held to rejoin and it was defeated.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Dundee held a vote and left. Then about 4 years ago another vote was held to rejoin and it was defeated.
    Fair play to you guys then! I don't suppose its very different than being in though anyway!
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    (Original post by Fractite)
    They need some drastic changes based on the things I've been hearing them saying.
    They talk like everybody can have their cake and eat it. They're not living in the real world and need to wake up.
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    (Original post by neb789)
    Fair play to you guys then! I don't suppose its very different than being in though anyway!
    Why do I need a discount card when there's unidays?
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Why do I need a discount card when there's unidays?
    Haha
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    Completely unrepresentative and paints such a sad picture of student politics that it turns many people off getting involved. Kill it with fire.
 
 
 
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