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    "Propaganda? Almost every statement made is factual."

    "Almost" - seems convincing lol. Cameron's is getting desperate now, he never expected it to be so close and with his reputation on the line he has to play dirty; its win at any cost for BSE
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    (Original post by The_Dragon_)
    "Propaganda? Almost every statement made is factual."

    "Almost" - seems convincing lol. Cameron's is getting desperate now, he never expected it to be so close and with his reputation on the line he has to play dirty; its win at any cost for BSE
    It's a £9.3m suicide note

    Labour had their longest suicide note in history, now Cameron gets the most expensive.

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    Is this against the law?
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    (Original post by ODES_PDES)
    Is this against the law?
    Probably not but only on technicalities

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Most government policy will not have unanimous support of the cabinet, or even necessarily majority support of the party or voters, its hardly unique to this one issue.
    A government is supposed to represent its voters. That's the whole point. That it's not necessary for it to happen in practice doesn't change the fact that it is the purpose of having a democratic system.
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    (Original post by ODES_PDES)
    Is this against the law?
    There were spending limits on the campaigns, but Cameron and his cronies are finding ways to sneak around these rules. I would say its a breach of democracy; but considering its regarding the EU i'm not even surprised. The EU and democracy don't exactly go hand in hand !
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    Might go some way to countering Russian propaganda who have been financing eurosceptics parties for years.

    We'll find out of it pays off.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Might go some way to countering Russian propaganda who have been financing eurosceptics parties for years.

    We'll find out of it pays off.
    Are these the groups that now in the actual referendum are going to raise their spending limit with ease by any chance and don't have the opportunity for the state to provide £9.3m questionable aid to them?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are these the groups that now in the actual referendum are going to raise their spending limit with ease by any chance and don't have the opportunity for the state to provide £9.3m questionable aid to them?
    The conservative manifesto I recall was to campaign for In in a reformed EU as dictated by their election winning leader. This addresses the unfair media imbalance somewhat but one leaflet isn't really going to make up a decades worth of lies and nisstepresentations from the bulk of the media.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    The conservative manifesto I recall was to campaign for In in a reformed EU as dictated by their election winning leader. This addresses the unfair media imbalance somewhat but one leaflet isn't really going to make up a decades worth of lies and nisstepresentations from the bulk of the media.
    Three separate ministers also declared lasts summer this would not happen, further there was a petition a bit back where once again the government pledged not to do this, and the in campaign have managed to balance out misinterpretations in a matter of months

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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    27 million pro EU leaflets to be sent out next week at a cost of £9.3m pounds.

    Disgusting

    http://news.sky.com/story/1673902/go...ro-eu-leaflets
    Completely agree the funds shouldn't have come from the public purse and it breaks the spending limits too.

    Things like this fix votes as it is an unfair playing field


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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    27 million pro EU leaflets to be sent out next week at a cost of £9.3m pounds.

    Disgusting

    http://news.sky.com/story/1673902/go...ro-eu-leaflets
    Government spends money advocating government policy.

    Whatever next?
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    (Original post by paul514)

    Things like this fix votes as it is an unfair playing field

    But it isn't a level playing field. Government policy is that we stay in the EU. What government policy in the last 500 years has the government of the day not spent money promoting?
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    If it was in the Tory manifesto to stay in a reformed EU(I'm basing this post on earlier posts on this thread having not read it) then IMO it's acceptable to use govt funds to help implement it.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    That's a ridiculous idea, because there's never certainty involved in economics.
    Then perhaps instead of saying, "If we leave/remain X Y Z will happen.", people should more honestly be saying, "I have a hunch that if we leave/remain, X Y Z might happen, or something else entirely might happen, because there's never certainty involved in economics."

    Or instead of saying, "Project fear? Telling people the facts about what will happen isn't fearmongering, it's educating people.", could say, "Project fear? Telling people my guess about what will happen - bearing in mind there's never certainty involved in economics - as if it were fact isn't fearmongering, it's educating people.".
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    What's disgusting is the billions spent over the years by Murdoch and the Rothermere / Mail people on anti-EU propaganda without any democratic accountability or honesty. They never tell people they are doing it because the EU is a threat to their City and offshore investments and industrial-scale tax dodging, or the tax dodging of the people they support. Why? Because however badly it works, the EU is not in thrall to the City or controlled by them, as much of the UK's setup is.
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    I've read the leaflet and as expected it's mostly filled with scaremongering propaganda.

    https://www.eureferendum.gov.uk/why-the-government-believes-we-should-remain/eu-referendum-leaflet/

    This page of the leaflet made me laugh. Apparently a benefit of staying in the EU is 'controlling immigration and securing our borders'.

    Which part of this is untrue?
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    The government is actually trying to EDUCATE PEOPLE? What the **** is this country coming to?!?!?!?!

    I'm glad they're doing this. The Leave campaign is supported by Rupert Murdoch and all his tabloid rag propaganda machines, manipulating the stupid and the lazy that can't be bothered doing their own research. We need somebody to get the facts out.

    Of course the leave voters are making a big fuss because it disrupts their campaign of spreading misinformation, fear and blatant lies. But £9.3m is pennies.
    How is it education if they're only promoting their side?
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    Puppets on strings aren't we all?
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    But it isn't a level playing field. Government policy is that we stay in the EU. What government policy in the last 500 years has the government of the day not spent money promoting?
    Ah right I suppose the law doesn't matter then


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