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    (Original post by Greenlaner)
    #notarealmuslim
    #nothingtodowithislam
    #religionofpeace
    #christianskillpeopletoo
    #multiculturalismisourstrength
    #itsallwhitepeoplesfault


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    #ThiswasdonebyMOSSADandtheJEWS
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    (Original post by TaintedLight)
    Disregarding the Islamophobic sentiment crawling all over this thread; it's unbelievable how the uk can allow people as bigoted as this guy to live among us.
    Corrected. There is nothing unreasonable or unjustified about disliking the ideology that is Islam. Aside from that, you are correct.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Not in Islam. It's a culture thing.

    I remember in the last thread about this murder, some Muslims said that they didn't condone the murder but did say Ahmadiyyas weren't real Muslims. Even when others replied to them with a Quran verse implying that Ahmadis were Muslims, they digressed and went off another tangent.
    Alright, if they say they don't condone the murder then why not just leave it at that? Why go on to say that he wasn't a real Muslim? Why does that matter? :holmes:
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    I'm Muslim and I find this disgusting. He got killed for wishing a Happy Easter. Christianity, Islam and Judaism all branch off Abrahamic beliefs. We all should be treating each other like brothers and sister
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Alright, if they say they don't condone the murder then why not just leave it at that? Why go on to say that he wasn't a real Muslim? Why does that matter? :holmes:
    It's the usual justification of an atrocity masquerading as an explanation of said atrocity. The worst part is that most people who do this don't even realise they're doing it.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Alright, if they say they don't condone the murder then why not just leave it at that? Why go on to say that he wasn't a real Muslim? Why does that matter? :holmes:
    The guy was killed mainly for one of those reasons- Ahmadis suffer persecution from other Muslims because they had a messenger who carried on the teachings of the Prophet. Other Muslims are ignorant enough to think that Ahmadis are completely disregarding the Prophet Mo when they aren't at all.
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    F*uck the whole "Ahmaydis aren't real muslims" garbage.

    SO WHAT if they aren't real muslims?

    People are saying that as if it justifies the murder of this poor innocent man
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Alright, if they say they don't condone the murder then why not just leave it at that? Why go on to say that he wasn't a real Muslim? Why does that matter? :holmes:
    It implies that he did not gain his motive for the killing from the Koran (which he did, of course) and, furthermore, that Islam does not encourage the killing of apostates, non-believers and others (which it does, of course).

    If the Koran sets out not to encourage such murders then the perfect, unedited word of Allah has done a pretty bad job of it, hasn't it?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    The guy was killed mainly for one of those reasons- Ahmadis suffer persecution from other Muslims because they had a messenger who carried on the teachings of the Prophet. Other Muslims are ignorant enough to think that Ahmadis are completely disregarding the Prophet Mo when they aren't at all.
    Does that mean that the mere presence of an Ahmadi is considered an insult/threat to other Muslims and so it's not too bad when they get murdered?
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    I'm Muslim and I find this disgusting. He got killed for wishing a Happy Easter. Christianity, Islam and Judaism all branch off Abrahamic beliefs. We all should be treating each other like brothers and sister
    Wise words. Unfortunately too many of your brethren bring their superstitious, lawless and chaotic attitudes with them when they come to a civilised country. If they wanted religiously-motivated lynchings they should have gone to the USA.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Does that mean that the mere presence of an Ahmadi is considered an insult/threat to other Muslims and so it's not too bad when they get murdered?
    Some people are disgusting enough to think so. Even Saudi Arabia has banned Ahmadis from going on pilgrimage because they consider them non Muslims. If they go, they get killed.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Some people are disgusting enough to think so. Even Saudi Arabia has banned Ahmadis from going on pilgrimage because they consider them non Muslims. If they go, they get killed.
    According to the BBC the Pakistan constitution forbids Ahmadis from calling themselves Moslem.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    According to the BBC the Pakistan constitution forbids Ahmadis from calling themselves Moslem.
    Yeah they do. I have a friend whose an Ahmadi Muslim (and her family are so chilled- they encourage dating before marriage and two of their kids have married a Hindu and an Orthodox Christian and they've been fine). She was telling me how when her parents were in Pakistan, they had to move around a few times because of how much hate they got. They were called devil worshippers and stuff then they finally moved to London.

    It's sad really. All that ignorance.
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    I'm Muslim and I find this disgusting. He got killed for wishing a Happy Easter. Christianity, Islam and Judaism all branch off Abrahamic beliefs. We all should be treating each other like brothers and sister
    Apparently, he got killed by a Muslim for being the wrong type of Muslim. Disgusting indeed. Do you share the same opinions as others on Ahmadiyya Muslims not being 'true Muslims'?
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    (Original post by Two R's)
    F*uck the whole "Ahmaydis aren't real muslims" garbage.

    SO WHAT if they aren't real muslims?

    People are saying that as if it justifies the murder of this poor innocent man
    They are Muslims though. They celebrate Ramadan and Eid, they read the Quran and they believe in Allah and the Prophet M.

    Sad that the most peaceful Muslim denomination are called the non Muslims.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Apparently, he got killed by a Muslim for being the wrong type of Muslim. Disgusting indeed. Do you share the same opinions as others on Ahmadiyya Muslims not being 'true Muslims'?
    Ahmadiyya aren't Muslims in the same way someone who doesn't believe in God can't be a Muslim.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    According to the BBC the Pakistan constitution forbids Ahmadis from calling themselves Moslem.
    That's true. You'll probably never hear about them if you visit Pakistan, and if you do, it won't be anything positive about them. They're treated lower than Christians, slaves etc.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Sad that the most peaceful Muslim denomination are called the non Muslims.
    And that implies something about those that do the calling that they would otherwise refuse to admit.
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    (Original post by AlifunArnab)
    Ahmadiyya aren't Muslims in the same way someone who doesn't believe in God can't be a Muslim.
    Ahmadiyya Muslims don't believe in a god?
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    (Original post by AlifunArnab)
    Ahmadiyya aren't Muslims in the same way someone who doesn't believe in God can't be a Muslim.
    Ahmadis worship in a mosque, they worship Allah, they read the Quran and they practice Ramadan. Like any other Muslim.
    It says in the Quran that anyone who eats sacred meat, prays in the direction of God and worships like a Muslim has the protection of God. Ahmadis do that. I don't know why some are ignorant to say that they aren't.

    (Original post by Hydeman)
    And that implies something about those that do the calling that they would otherwise refuse to admit.
    It speaks volumes.
 
 
 
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