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V961 - Agriculture and Fisheries Bill 2016 Watch

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Except we do that on almost every bill, are you also proposing we skip the election because it won't consider political implications, I.e.1997 like swing to the Tories and UKIP from labour and the liberals

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    Of course not, because the fact that we have our own elections overrides canon. I don't think we do that on almost every Bill, but if you see where we violate fundamental tenets of EU law in any Bill, I urge you to speak up.
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    Of course not, because the fact that we have our own elections overrides canon. I don't think we do that on almost every Bill, but if you see where we violate fundamental tenets of EU law in any Bill, I urge you to speak up.
    Oh, so political implications means contravening what the EU wants and not implications of a political nature. What would have happened if the ATA had passed IRL? Riots on the street and a call for the government to resign, and the decimation of the government. The finance bill would also likely lead to a call for the government to step down, as it is the best we can do to emulate this is say "these guys want a £150bn deficit and to increase your council tax on average 8 fold"

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Oh, so political implications means contravening what the EU wants and not implications of a political nature. What would have happened if the ATA had passed IRL? Riots on the street and a call for the government to resign, and the decimation of the government. The finance bill would also likely lead to a call for the government to step down, as it is the best we can do to emulate this is say "these guys want a £150bn deficit and to increase your council tax on average 8 fold"

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    You forget that many of the Tories' measures IRL actually did cause a similar response (ignoring the completely unrealistic elements). We have to consider the political implications, but it doesn't mean that we should just never do anything controversial. However, with this, the political implications are effectively leaving the EU, and IIRC it triggers trade sanctions from EU countries. Even if we don't say that this is in violation of the rule against ignoring referendum results (something I would actually like a ruling from the acting Speaker on), the fact should be noted prominently in debate.
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