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    Yes, White Lives Matter.

    Everyone is vulnerable to the ills of society. People suffer from different sorts of discrimination. It will be nice to see a White Lives Matter movement to raise awareness of the evil done against white people.

    On the other hand, this should not become a subtle counter-argument to the Black Lives Matter movement. It will just be silly and not very clever.
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    It's annoying when people say 'All Lives Matter' in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. Yes, all lives do matter, but the reason behind the black lives matter movement is to ensure this is the case. Considering the countless cases of violence by white, American police officers towards black people who had done nothing wrong, black people's lives clearly do not matter to the police officers.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
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    You're joking, right?

    How can you make that as an argument, that's such a small minority.

    And im specifically talking about the western slave trade, muslims are irrelevant.

    No one makes anyone ask for an apology, stop putting words in my mouth.

    And i love how you completely avoided the Apartheid bit.
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    We need to distinguish between supporting racial equality in America, and supporting black lives matters, who are just completely mental.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    You're joking, right?

    How can you make that as an argument, that's such a small minority.

    And im specifically talking about the western slave trade, muslims are irrelevant.

    No one makes anyone ask for an apology, stop putting words in my mouth.

    And i love how you completely avoided the Apartheid bit.
    You don't know your history. Muslim slavery lasted much longer than white slavery, it WAS in the west (given the word slave comes from Europian Slav; ie Greeks etc).

    Yes Apartied was racist why would I argue that.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    You're joking, right?

    How can you make that as an argument, that's such a small minority.

    And im specifically talking about the western slave trade, muslims are irrelevant.

    No one makes anyone ask for an apology, stop putting words in my mouth.

    And i love how you completely avoided the Apartheid bit.
    Why is slavery ot apartheid the responsibility of 'white people'?
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    They werent gassed because they were white, its because of their religion fool. Blacks suffered during the apartheid and stuff like that because they were black, That's the difference.

    If you're gonna bring historic events to back it up, black people were captured, enslaved and abused because they were black and seen as sub human. But if a black guy waves that around, white people get all defensive saying 'we dont have to apologise for our ancestors actions, it was so long ago'

    White lives matter but when comparing it to the discrimination a coloured person faces, its nothing.

    ALL LIVES MATTER
    No, the Holocaust was based on race, the Jewish race. Apartheid was bad, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as the Holocaust. You're raving about white slave owners but ignoring the fact that these white slave owners had slaves given to them by black slave owners
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    You don't know your history. Muslim slavery lasted much longer than white slavery, it WAS in the west (given the word slave comes from Europian Slav; ie Greeks etc).

    Yes Apartied was racist why would I argue that.
    Im not concerned with Muslim slavery, that is irrelevant. Muslim slavery doesnt make it better for the white slavery that existed.

    Precisely my point, racism exists in modern history and it is often the case that white people have been the perpetrators.
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    (Original post by Farm_Ecology)
    Why is slavery ot apartheid the responsibility of 'white people'?
    Stop putting words in my mouth and read the original post i made.

    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    No, the Holocaust was based on race, the Jewish race. Apartheid was bad, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as the Holocaust. You're raving about white slave owners but ignoring the fact that these white slave owners had slaves given to them by black slave owners
    Whether Jewish people are a race or not is arguable. Genetically there is evidence but i dont want to get into that.

    But that is irrelevant, point is jewish people werent mistreated because of the colour of the skin, whereas black people were. I dont deny the severity of the mistreatment of jews.

    Again, read my post on black slave owners. That really wasnt the point i was conveying.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    Im not concerned with Muslim slavery, that is irrelevant. Muslim slavery doesnt make it better for the white slavery that existed.

    Precisely my point, racism exists in modern history and it is often the case that white people have been the perpetrators.
    I'm mean, I don't disagree with any of this but none of it justifies the bullying white face today, compared to other cultures who's history are pretty much similar.

    You agree that all of this stuff applies to other races, so why am I being attacked?
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    I'm mean, I don't disagree with any of this but none of it justifies the bullying white face today, compared to other cultures who's history are pretty much similar.

    You agree that all of this stuff applies to other races, so why am I being attacked?
    What do you mean bullying? Sure, every race will face discrimination, hence why we have 'all lives matter'. 'Black lives matter' exists specifically for its own reason. 'Latino lives matter' also has its own agenda. White people dont specifically have an agenda as such, such a movement is meaningless.

    Im not attacking you, you chose to reply to me first.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    you realise the concept of Europe was formed in response to the slaughter and oppression of north africans invading, raping, pillaging, burning, that throughout history slavery has been against whites by Muslims, that currently in is in fashion to not allow whites to talk because of an anti scientific idea called standpoint threory, right?
    Slavery was not as simple as one race exerting slavery upon another. It was a result of the spoils of war. Europeans and Muslims held large numbers of slaves. It's not a race issue but more a human one.

    Europeans held European slaves just as Muslims held Muslim slaves. Naturally it turned into an industry.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    What do you mean bullying? Sure, every race will face discrimination, hence why we have 'all lives matter'. 'Black lives matter' exists specifically for its own reason. 'Latino lives matter' also has its own agenda. White people dont specifically have an agenda as such, such a movement is meaningless.

    Im not attacking you, you chose to reply to me first.
    i'm talking about the prevalent cultural narrative atm. FOr example, NEwsnight had people on defending white people getting bullied for having a hair do that some black people wear.
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    (Original post by The_Last_Melon)
    It's called Capitalism and it's not about race it's about wealth. Do you think Chris Brown, Rihanna, Jaz Z etc really care about this stuff? If there was a real genocide happening then it would be an issue but they've just elected a black president ffs. All Americans hate are Muslims and Mexicans, they love the Blacks, have you ever watched American porn ffs? It's all interracial. Also they don't even hate the Mexicans and Muslims that much, it just so happens that they're the only people causing the USA problems atm. (drugs trade and religious tension)
    Yeah, just ignore everything else this person has said because you have nothing to say.
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    (Original post by eagleclawsan)
    Slavery was not as simple as one race exerting slavery upon another. It was a result of the spoils of war. Europeans and Muslims held large numbers of slaves. It's not a race issue but more a human one.

    Europeans held European slaves just as Muslims held Muslim slaves. Naturally it turned into an industry.
    Yes
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    (Original post by The_Last_Melon)
    White lives matter because people say you can't even be racist against us despite being the most tolerant people in the world to other races except for maybe the Chinese and Thai people. So because we are so tolerant that excuses you to abuse us? I don't think so.
    While there are some truths in what you are saying, you are purposely misrepresenting the point of Black Lives Matter by using it to make a seperate point.

    Black Lives Matter means they matter as well, not instead of other lives.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    i'm talking about the prevalent cultural narrative atm. FOr example, NEwsnight had people on defending white people getting bullied for having a hair do that some black people wear.
    Well to some people that is seen as culture appropriation. Its not because one is white that they are being bullied.

    If any person appropriates the culture of another race, they can expect some bullying. Not all would like to see a distinctive feature of their own culture on someone else.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    Stop putting words in my mouth and read the original post i made.

    You are refering to it as white slavery and muslim slavery.

    The persons race are sonewhat irrelevant.
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    (Original post by Farm_Ecology)
    You are refering to it as white slavery and muslim slavery.

    The persons race are sonewhat irrelevant.
    As i said, that wasnt my point. I'll refer you to all the posts i've made.
 
 
 
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