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    I used to work in Ann Summers for over a year so hopefully I can help. I like how informed you are about the differences! It's nice to see.

    Hold-ups will always say they are hold-ups on the package, so keep that in mind. The sticky strip around the top can vary in quality so be wary of the cheaper ones, they're very likely to simply fall down. If it is just to wear for the bedroom and for a short time, hold-ups are fine. They are easier to put on, as they don't require any fiddling with fastenings, however probably won't withstand a lot of movement or, er... any sweat.

    I find for longer wear, stockings and a suspender belt will always be more comfortable. They also - in my opinion - look more classical. Now, to just look good/short wear, a four-strap belt which you can buy in Ann Summers or similar stores would be fine, as it isn't necessary to hold them in place for a long time. If you do go in, you can ask them to show you how to fasten the clips. It is a case of sliding the stocking between two clips and sandwiching it in place, and can be easy once you know how.

    However, for comfort reasons if it is for longer wear and to hold the stockings straight, I always recommend six-strap belts with metal clips. You can find these online or in vintage stores such as What Katie Did or Kissmedeadly. A bonus with metal clipped belts if that you can clip hold-ups as well as stockings in them which is difficult if not impossible to do with plastic clips.

    Before you go into store, make sure you know her rough height (for the stockings), dress size and bra size! This can vary a lot so I find the easiest way to find out (other than asking if it is a surprise) is to check the things she wears the most. They'll be the most comfortable for her and thus often give a better idea of her size Also, if you are buying a bra, find out which style she prefers. Balconette and plunge are the most common - balconette bras have cups which are straighter, whereas plunge ones have ones which 'plunge' in the middle. This explains it better: http://cdn2.gurl.com/wp-content/uplo...bratricks2.jpg

    I'd be happy to answer more questions if you need it.
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    (Original post by physics_geek97)
    So long story cut short is that in just under a month, my girlfriend's gonna be 18 and for her birthday I wanted to get her some underwear.

    I have got her lingerie earlier on in our relationship and we have both said in the past that we would like to try stockings (of some kind).

    Recently we have been looking into them a bit more and she says that in regards to stockings and suspender belts she is a little 'stressed out' by how they work and all (and I can't blame her to be honest).

    However, I'd like to surprise her. Originally my idea was to get her a nice set of black underwear with suspender belt and stockings included to go with her only pair of heels (which are also black). Yet yesterday, I learnt that she doesn't feel comfortable wearing her heels (she has never work heels before so doesn't intend to either).

    So my next idea is to possibly get a black set or something like that and maybe a pair of stockings with a suspender belt (so that it's all matching).

    I was just wondering whether anybody had any experience with both stockings and suspenders and if so, what you would recommend for beginners because I would personally prefer to get her the stockings with suspender belt as I find it more seductive but equally I would never like my girlfriend to be uncomfortable, especially for such an intimate time whilst we're together so I would just like some of your thoughts please
    Ok, I've been wearing stockings very regularly for quite a few years now so can hopefully help.

    Firstly, what are her/your intentions for this underwear? Is it to wear it all day, for a night out or just to put it on for a night in? If the plan is to wear it out of the house, places like Ann Summers is definitely not the answer and especially not for a first timer who is feeling 'stressed out'.

    A good suspender belt (in my view) needs three things; a wide band with at least three fasteners to stop the belt from twisting around or slipping down, adjustable suspender straps so the length of each strap can be adjusted and, thirdly and most importantly, metal clasps on the end of the straps. Personally, I would also recommend a six (or more) strap suspender belt as well because these always feel far more secure but if she's not worn one before, she shouldn't feel overawed. For one of these, you would need to go beyond the high street though as I've never found these belts anywhere like M&S, Debenhams, Boux Avenue, John Lewis, Primark, BHS etc. A specialist lingerie shop might do them but I've onlnevr found one or two places that have ever stocked decent belts. Online stores are clearly the way forward for the best quality.

    If she likes vintage looks, corselettes and girdles can be really comfy but if she wants skimpy undies, these may not be her thing.

    As to comfort once on, these things need a bit of trial and error. Straps need to be taut enough to stop the stockings slipping but there needs to be enough give to stop the belt being wrenched down when she sits. I'd definitely recommend stockings with a good Lycra content rather than FFS or RHTs which don't usually have any stretch in them.

    Good luck with it all. If she gets the right gear, she might love wearing them but I've known plenty of friends to hate them when they bought (or had bought for them) high street sets that look sexy but have no substance.

    Feel free to let me know if you have any queries. Hope that helps

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    (Original post by Chaotezy)
    I used to work in Ann Summers for over a year so hopefully I can help. I like how informed you are about the differences! It's nice to see.

    Hold-ups will always say they are hold-ups on the package, so keep that in mind. The sticky strip around the top can vary in quality so be wary of the cheaper ones, they're very likely to simply fall down. If it is just to wear for the bedroom and for a short time, hold-ups are fine. They are easier to put on, as they don't require any fiddling with fastenings, however probably won't withstand a lot of movement or, er... any sweat.

    I find for longer wear, stockings and a suspender belt will always be more comfortable. They also - in my opinion - look more classical. Now, to just look good/short wear, a four-strap belt which you can buy in Ann Summers or similar stores would be fine, as it isn't necessary to hold them in place for a long time. If you do go in, you can ask them to show you how to fasten the clips. It is a case of sliding the stocking between two clips and sandwiching it in place, and can be easy once you know how.

    However, for comfort reasons if it is for longer wear and to hold the stockings straight, I always recommend six-strap belts with metal clips. You can find these online or in vintage stores such as What Katie Did or Kissmedeadly. A bonus with metal clipped belts if that you can clip hold-ups as well as stockings in them which is difficult if not impossible to do with plastic clips.

    Before you go into store, make sure you know her rough height (for the stockings), dress size and bra size! This can vary a lot so I find the easiest way to find out (other than asking if it is a surprise) is to check the things she wears the most. They'll be the most comfortable for her and thus often give a better idea of her size Also, if you are buying a bra, find out which style she prefers. Balconette and plunge are the most common - balconette bras have cups which are straighter, whereas plunge ones have ones which 'plunge' in the middle. This explains it better: http://cdn2.gurl.com/wp-content/uplo...bratricks2.jpg

    I'd be happy to answer more questions if you need it.
    Thanks for the reply!

    I think going off what yourself and others have said, stockings may be the way forward! They wouldn't be used for anything more than a night in I wouldn't have thought and so I am sure a four strap belt would be fine.

    I know her rough dress size and I know her bra size however I'm going to have to have a look into her height (thanks for the heads up with that!).

    I'm at work all of today and generally busy with A-Levels but if I find anything else to ask, would it be ok for me to DM you?
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    (Original post by Bex94)
    Ok, I've been wearing stockings very regularly for quite a few years now so can hopefully help.

    Firstly, what are her/your intentions for this underwear? Is it to wear it all day, for a night out or just to put it on for a night in? If the plan is to wear it out of the house, places like Ann Summers is definitely not the answer and especially not for a first timer who is feeling 'stressed out'.

    A good suspender belt (in my view) needs three things; a wide band with at least three fasteners to stop the belt from twisting around or slipping down, adjustable suspender straps so the length of each strap can be adjusted and, thirdly and most importantly, metal clasps on the end of the straps. Personally, I would also recommend a six (or more) strap suspender belt as well because these always feel far more secure but if she's not worn one before, she shouldn't feel overawed. For one of these, you would need to go beyond the high street though as I've never found these belts anywhere like M&S, Debenhams, Boux Avenue, John Lewis, Primark, BHS etc. A specialist lingerie shop might do them but I've onlnevr found one or two places that have ever stocked decent belts. Online stores are clearly the way forward for the best quality.

    If she likes vintage looks, corselettes and girdles can be really comfy but if she wants skimpy undies, these may not be her thing.

    As to comfort once on, these things need a bit of trial and error. Straps need to be taut enough to stop the stockings slipping but there needs to be enough give to stop the belt being wrenched down when she sits. I'd definitely recommend stockings with a good Lycra content rather than FFS or RHTs which don't usually have any stretch in them.

    Good luck with it all. If she gets the right gear, she might love wearing them but I've known plenty of friends to hate them when they bought (or had bought for them) high street sets that look sexy but have no substance.

    Feel free to let me know if you have any queries. Hope that helps

    Bex
    Thanks for the reply....it's been really helpful!

    I don't think either of our intentions would be for her to wear them anything longer than just the night in. (I could be wrong in which case, when the time comes, I can always suggest what you have done) but as far as I am aware it would solely used for a night in.

    It's great to hear about the need for adjustable strap lengths and all as I never would have thought otherwise! I have heard about metal clips too, however been as the idea is for them to only be worn within the house on a night in, would you still recommend having six or more straps, or do you think four would be ample enough?

    In regards to the stockings too, how do I know about their lycra content?; is there a number or something?

    I'd like to think that hopefully once it all comes together she'll find it not only comfortable but hopefully the fact she might feel more confident and take our love for lingerie that bit higher

    If I think of any other questions, would it be ok if I could DM you please? Thanks
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    (Original post by physics_geek97)
    Thanks for the reply....it's been really helpful!

    I don't think either of our intentions would be for her to wear them anything longer than just the night in. (I could be wrong in which case, when the time comes, I can always suggest what you have done) but as far as I am aware it would solely used for a night in.

    It's great to hear about the need for adjustable strap lengths and all as I never would have thought otherwise! I have heard about metal clips too, however been as the idea is for them to only be worn within the house on a night in, would you still recommend having six or more straps, or do you think four would be ample enough?

    In regards to the stockings too, how do I know about their lycra content?; is there a number or something?

    I'd like to think that hopefully once it all comes together she'll find it not only comfortable but hopefully the fact she might feel more confident and take our love for lingerie that bit higher

    If I think of any other questions, would it be ok if I could DM you please? Thanks
    You're welcome to message me.

    Ok, if they're just for the bedroom, I don't think you need to look too far but I'd still go for something like a Ted Baker set that they do in Debenhams. They're very pretty and the stuff I've had bought for me from there has had metal clasps so the quality isn't too bad, even for wearing out for a meal etc. I've had friends who've bought, or been bought, some cheapo suspenders in the past and they've been so poor quality or uncomfy that it's put them off for life so it's worth investing in something nice. If you can afford Agent Provilocateur, that'd be the way to go! 😉

    Don't worry about the Lycra content of the stockings. It'll tell you in the product details. The 'number' you normally see on the front packet of any hosiery is usually the denier (thickness) of the product. I'd be amazed if you found 100% nylon stockings on the high street. I've only seen them in vintage or specialist shops. Any you buy from M&S, Debenhams or Ann Summers etc will be fine for what you want.
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    (Original post by Bex94)
    You're welcome to message me.

    Ok, if they're just for the bedroom, I don't think you need to look too far but I'd still go for something like a Ted Baker set that they do in Debenhams. They're very pretty and the stuff I've had bought for me from there has had metal clasps so the quality isn't too bad, even for wearing out for a meal etc. I've had friends who've bought, or been bought, some cheapo suspenders in the past and they've been so poor quality or uncomfy that it's put them off for life so it's worth investing in something nice. If you can afford Agent Provilocateur, that'd be the way to go! 😉

    Don't worry about the Lycra content of the stockings. It'll tell you in the product details. The 'number' you normally see on the front packet of any hosiery is usually the denier (thickness) of the product. I'd be amazed if you found 100% nylon stockings on the high street. I've only seen them in vintage or specialist shops. Any you buy from M&S, Debenhams or Ann Summers etc will be fine for what you want.
    That's great, thank you! - I really appreciate the help!

    I'll have a look online when I can and get back to you
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    (Original post by physics_geek97)
    Thanks for the reply!

    I think going off what yourself and others have said, stockings may be the way forward! They wouldn't be used for anything more than a night in I wouldn't have thought and so I am sure a four strap belt would be fine.

    I know her rough dress size and I know her bra size however I'm going to have to have a look into her height (thanks for the heads up with that!).

    I'm at work all of today and generally busy with A-Levels but if I find anything else to ask, would it be ok for me to DM you?
    I do think that stockings and suspenders are always a more dressed up look and if they're the right quality they can last for ages. If you buy expensive stockings to be reworn (like AP ones for instance), make sure that she owns a pair of thin gloves to put them on with, as nails make ladders in stockings so easily. Cheap ones however are normally a couple of wears then the bin I find, especially if you go out in them.

    I second the Ted Baker recommendation, and Debenhams in general. They have some beautiful lingerie which isn't boring or made cheaply.

    Try to be certain with her dress size as girls often vary with underwear compared to actual clothes, or even by type of underwear. For instance I size up in thongs but my friend has to size down!

    And yes you can definitely DM me, can't promise I'll check every day as I'm busy with work but I'll try to!
 
 
 

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