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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I wish more gay people I met could be like you. Sadly they tend to mock my religion and my intelligence
    Sorry you had that experience. Most of the gay guys I know are pretty chill and open-minded, they don't work in the creative industries they're academics and lawyers, one a military officer and another a cybersecurity expert who does cyberwarfare contracts for the MoD. They are, and I think most gay people these days are, pretty normal and not like the stereotype of the sort of gay person who makes sarcastic cutting remarks about people's fashion sense etc and has a generally effeminate demeanor.

    The ones you met... were they SJWs? If so that probably has more to do with their bad attitude than their sexuality
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    True, there were the usual left-wing suspects. But on one right-wing website I went on, there were literally American right-wingers saying this was a good thing. Here's a taste of one of the worst comments.



    And one comment on Twitter



    It's quite sick that there are some people on the right who are so rabidly homophobic that they will verge on supporting ISIS
    And ******* they are. I couldn't give two ***** what a handful of irrelevant right wingers said (their anti gay bs is dying anyway, Im right wing through and through yet I support LGBT rights, they are a dying breed) when left wingers are trending topics like #IslamIsPeace and #ILoveIslam

    The difference is pro Islam and pro terrorist feelings are on the rise in the left
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    And ******* they are. I couldn't give two ***** what a handful of irrelevant right wingers said (their anti gay bs is dying anyway, Im right wing through and through yet I support LGBT rights, they are a dying breed)
    Very reassuring to hear. As I said in another comment, most of my mates are centre-right (from the classical liberalism freedom of enterprise side) and I know even among social conservatives they're not at all like the comments that guy made. As you say, that kind of view is totally on the fringe even for very conservative people, and their hatred is dying out completely.

    when left wingers are trending topics like #IslamIsPeace and #ILoveIslam

    The difference is pro Islam and pro terrorist feelings are on the rise in the left
    I accept your point about these particular far rightists being a dying breed and isolated within the broader right wing, whereas pro-Islamist and pro-terrorist views are growing like a cancer within the left and even the Labour Party is now led by such a person. That's why I'm fighting tooth and nail as part of the Labour moderate faction to see the end of the Corbyn reign. So yes I agree that this left Islam issue is probably more of a real problem, more pressing
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    Sorry you had that experience. Most of the gay guys I know are pretty chill and open-minded, they don't work in the creative industries they're academics and lawyers, one a military officer and another a cybersecurity expert who does cyberwarfare contracts for the MoD. They are, and I think most gay people these days are, pretty normal and not like the stereotype of the sort of gay person who makes sarcastic cutting remarks about people's fashion sense etc and has a generally effeminate demeanor.

    The ones you met... were they SJWs? If so that probably has more to do with their bad attitude than their sexuality
    One was a rabid left winger and was very active in the green party. He wasn't too bad, at least not overtly, but he did try and use my religious views against me at work, threatening to tell my business manager once to get me sacked or whatever.

    The other was an ***hole, plain and simple. He did study photography but he was a party boy and he would regularly wake up the whole of our university flat in the small hours of the morning banging on the outside door hammered and shouting. It wasn't just our flat he woke up aswell, even others complained about him (this was uni accommodation btw) He would then come in and one time peed all over the kitchen floor.

    Thankfully I've met some other nice homosexuals but they are old so I think that has more to do with it. I wouldn't ever tell them I was a Christian though; I just don't trust to.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    One was a rabid left winger and was very active in the green party. He wasn't too bad, at least not overtly, but he did try and use my religious views against me at work, threatening to tell my business manager once to get me sacked or whatever.

    The other was an ***hole, plain and simple. He did study photography but he was a party boy and he would regularly wake up the whole of our university flat in the small hours of the morning banging on the outside door hammered and shouting. It wasn't just our flat he woke up aswell, even others complained about him (this was uni accommodation btw) He would then come in and one time peed all over the kitchen floor.

    Thankfully I've met some other nice homosexuals but they are old so I think that has more to do with it. I wouldn't ever tell them I was a Christian though; I just don't trust to.
    The first one sounds horrible, to threaten to try to get you sacked. That's an awful thing to do. The second one sounds like a total d-bag, but on the other hand it's not impossible to reimagine him as straight (in other words, his sexuality seems irrelevant to him being a d-bag)

    I wouldn't worry so much about telling people who are gay that you are Christian. There are many strands of Christianity who are very accepting of gay people (hell, there's even a gay Christian church called the Metropolitan Community Church). So I don't think they'll automatically assume you are prejudiced against them, nor do I think they would prejudge you. At least, I think most of them would not.

    Anyway, there are plenty of us who are just pretty normal people. Neither saints nor sinners, not effeminate, not working in stereotypical gay professions... we have the same likes and dislikes, the same worries thinking about how to afford to buy a house, spend time on the couch with our boyfriend watching The Americans rather than out partying at gay clubs with ecstasy and GHB. In short I think the vast majority of us are really little different from any other person
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    The first one sounds horrible, to threaten to try to get you sacked. That's an awful thing to do. The second one sounds like a total d-bag, but on the other hand it's not impossible to reimagine him as straight (in other words, his sexuality seems irrelevant to him being a d-bag)

    I wouldn't worry so much about telling people who are gay that you are Christian. There are many strands of Christianity who are very accepting of gay people (hell, there's even a gay Christian church called the Metropolitan Community Church). So I don't think they'll automatically assume you are prejudiced against them, nor do I think they would prejudge you. At least, I think most of them would not.

    Anyway, there are plenty of us who are just pretty normal people. Neither saints nor sinners, not effeminate, not working in stereotypical gay professions... we have the same likes and dislikes, the same worries thinking about how to afford to buy a house, spend time on the couch with our boyfriend watching The Americans rather than out partying at gay clubs with ecstasy and GHB. In short I think the vast majority of us are really little different from any other person
    Pretty much what I thought; it would be stupid of me to judge the entirety of the LGBT community based on a sample of 2 people.

    Exactly, that is what rabid homophobes seem to miss is that you're all human aswell; they've dehumanised you so much in their own minds and worldview that they forget you have hearts and souls and feelings. They must just perceive you as aliens or something.
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    Very reassuring to hear. As I said in another comment, most of my mates are centre-right (from the classical liberalism freedom of enterprise side) and I know even among social conservatives they're not at all like the comments that guy made. As you say, that kind of view is totally on the fringe even for very conservative people, and their hatred is dying out completely.



    I accept your point about these particular far rightists being a dying breed and isolated within the broader right wing, whereas pro-Islamist and pro-terrorist views are growing like a cancer within the left and even the Labour Party is now led by such a person. That's why I'm fighting tooth and nail as part of the Labour moderate faction to see the end of the Corbyn reign. So yes I agree that this left Islam issue is probably more of a real problem, more pressing
    The scary thing is, it has nothing to do with religious freedoms, they despise Judaism and Christianity but have a tendency to view Islam in a different manner. That's the problem. I personally view all three as outdated ideologies which need to die out yet the left (once proud anti-religious groups since progressive movements clash with religion) now stand proudly defending Islam. It's not like I am mistaking them defending Muslims because they are even defending the ideology itself, saying it is a "great religion of our world" and all the bs.

    Corbyn and his crew are something else. I associate with those like the late Tony Benn and DenniS Skinner (I always said in another life I was probably that old Labour type) who are not like Corbyn, they share the socialist views but not the left wing nonsense which Corbyn preaches as he stands and addresses gender split rooms of Muslim communities or whatever.

    We need a leader who admits religion for what it is, not being a religion loving nutter or a pick and choose (in this case Islam) out of political correctness. Religion is backwards and outdated, call me a fascist for being like that but religion of any kind should not be painted as something which has brought goodness into this world
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Pretty much what I thought; it would be stupid of me to judge the entirety of the LGBT community based on a sample of 2 people.

    Exactly, that is what rabid homophobes seem to miss is that you're all human aswell; they've dehumanised you so much in their own minds and worldview that they forget you have hearts and souls and feelings. They must just perceive you as aliens or something.
    If only the left would actually acknowledge the most homophobic group in the world- the Islamic community. They are so caught up in their political correctness that they will not even address it. It's Islamophobic somehow to say the group who openly admit they oppose homosexuality is homophobic, what ever happened to the so called progressive movement before it got caught up its own ***
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