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    Because Tories win elections by defaming their opponents, and their idiot supporters lap it up.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    Because Tories win elections by defaming their opponents, and their idiot supporters lap it up.
    ahh, so that's how margaret thatcher rose to power, I suppose? not any genuine problems from the labour party?
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    (Original post by BubbleBoobies)
    he shared a platform with him 10 times
    So?


    Worse things have been said about Martin McGuinness and he's Deputy First Minister of NI.

    (Original post by Omen96)
    He has actually defended more clients in court (when he was a lawyer) on charges of terrorism/extremism than any other crime. Why is he attracted to defending terrorists. Few lawyers have that statistic on their record. He has publicly stood with terrorists.

    You can say it's a coincidence but you have to be a real retard (and therefore not qualified for mayor) to make that mistake 100s of times
    Alleged terrorists.
    Defended who on charges of terrorism? Could you back up that statement? The majority of his cases were concerning racial discrimination. He was not a defence lawyer, he was a human rights lawyer. He took one client's case to the European Court of Human Rights.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    So?


    Worse things have been said about Martin McGuinness and he's Deputy First Minister of NI.
    okay? how does that deflect the fact that he shared a platform with an extremist 10 times? are you really trying to argue "oh come on that's not so bad"? because "yes it is"
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    (Original post by Sayed0123)
    Sadiq Khan is a shady guy- we have no idea what side he's on as he always changes his opinion. He also supports Jeremy Corbyn, let me repeat that: JEREMY CORBYN. Nuff said.
    "He supports Jeremy Corbyn". Aaaand your point is?
    Of course he supports Jeremy Corbyn, he's the Labour leader.
    Prove that he always changes his opinion.

    (Original post by BubbleBoobies)
    ahh, so that's how margaret thatcher rose to power, I suppose? not any genuine problems from the labour party?
    So you're going to go back to 1979 to try and prove a point?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    "He supports Jeremy Corbyn". Aaaand your point is?
    Of course he supports Jeremy Corbyn, he's the Labour leader.
    Prove that he always changes his opinion.



    So you're going to go back to 1979 to try and prove a point?
    Jeremy Corbyn is an idiot- he got two E grades in his A-Levels and went to what is currently called London Metropolitan University. Meanwhile, David Cameron went to Oxford and got three A's in his A-Levels. Nuff said
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    He happens to be my local MP.
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    Not at all. They have always enshrined the Labour principles (esp. from the 1980's onwards) and not one of them have sought to use the Labour Party machinations in an attempt to portray themselves as something they are not, quite unlike Zac Goldsmith.
    what "labour principles"? they have no principles. not after blair.

    "Innocent before guilty" usually works in enlightened and free societies and has worked for over 800 years. Forgive me if I detest your allusions and hope of Britain becoming like East Germany.
    yeah, so I guess OJ simpson is innocent then.
    but either way, there's video footage of this extremist's speech:
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-revealed.html

    Actually, the proposed boundary changes would benefit Conservatives more than it would Labour, given the type of voters each party attracts.
    of course, but they never got passed. so now, like in the past, the boundaries still favour labour!

    Whether you support the HoL or not is largely irrelevant given the fact that I am trying to explain to you the numerous ways which the Conservatives are attacking the integrity of the legislative process by mud slinging, disenfranchising members of the electorate, gerry mandering and abuse of convention in an effort to serve the interests of the select few.
    so what does this even have to do with the HOL if all you're talking about is mud-slinging which every party does?

    This is the Conservative Party which Zac Goldsmith has chosen to align himself with and even though he may not support their policies in their entirety, he nevertheless is using funds generated from their manifesto to appeal to voters to vote for him the Mayoral elections.
    okay then? and your point?
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    (Original post by Sayed0123)
    Jeremy Corbyn is an idiot- he got two E grades in his A-Levels and went to what is currently called London Metropolitan University. Meanwhile, David Cameron went to Oxford and got three A's in his A-Levels. Nuff said
    No, Jeremy Corbyn grew up in a deprived working-class background.

    David Cameron is the idiot. He grew up in an upper-class family, went to fee-paying schools like Westminster, had private tutors, had it all paid for him and never understood the hardships the 99% have gone through. He then claims 'we're all in this together'.

    If Corbyn was an idiot he would never have spent 2 years doing Voluntary Service Overseas in Jamaica, worked as an official for the NUTGW, worked as a trade union organiser for the NUPE and AEEU, been appointed a member of a district health authority, been elected to Haringey Council, been Islington North MP for 33 years or been elected secretary of Islington Borough's Labour Group.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    No, Jeremy Corbyn grew up in a deprived working-class background.

    David Cameron is the idiot. He grew up in an upper-class family, went to fee-paying schools like Westminster, had private tutors, had it all paid for him and never understood the hardships the 99% have gone through. He then claims 'we're all in this together'.

    If Corbyn was an idiot he would never have spent 2 years doing Voluntary Service Overseas in Jamaica, worked as an official for the NUTGW, worked as a trade union organiser for the NUPE and AEEU, been appointed a member of a district health authority, been elected to Haringey Council, been Islington North MP for 33 years or been elected secretary of Islington Borough's Labour Group.
    I don't think it's fair to criticise anyone based on their background. There are plenty of rich, privileged people who understand and help the poor. The problem isn't that David Cameron doesn't understand hardship, he just doesn't care. Politics is a career to him, and he serves himself.

    I also don't think he's an idiot. He's managed to manipulate the country into electing him as PM twice. He's very good at what he does, unfortunately.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    I don't think it's fair to criticise anyone based on their background. There are plenty of rich, privileged people who understand and help the poor. The problem isn't that David Cameron doesn't understand hardship, he just doesn't care. Politics is a career to him, and he serves himself.

    I also don't think he's an idiot. He's managed to manipulate the country into electing him as PM twice. He's very good at what he does, unfortunately.
    I agree with the second part, but I'd like you to provide some examples of these "rich, privileged people who understand and help the poor".
    Apart from Tony Benn.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    No, Jeremy Corbyn grew up in a deprived working-class background.

    David Cameron is the idiot. He grew up in an upper-class family, went to fee-paying schools like Westminster, had private tutors, had it all paid for him and never understood the hardships the 99% have gone through. He then claims 'we're all in this together'.

    If Corbyn was an idiot he would never have spent 2 years doing Voluntary Service Overseas in Jamaica, worked as an official for the NUTGW, worked as a trade union organiser for the NUPE and AEEU, been appointed a member of a district health authority, been elected to Haringey Council, been Islington North MP for 33 years or been elected secretary of Islington Borough's Labour Group.
    What hardships? He achieved it all fair and square. Jeremy Corbyn could have been a successful person like Cameron but he didn't work hard or have the necessary aptitude to succeed. The fact is that David Cameron is the one who represents working people in Britain- Jeremy Corbyn (and his shadow Sadiq Khan) stand for people who rely on welfare and don't work hard like the rest of us- he's going to increase welfare payments, fail to stop the flow of immigration, increase corporation tax (forcing businesses to leave the UK) and he knows nothing about how a free market economy works.
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    Hasn't Labour taken the high ground on this and poor old Zac is down there in the pit of desperation, trying to sling mud around and hoping some of it would stick?
    I think Labour lost whatever moral high ground they may have had when they responded to Cameron not with a counter-argument or a deconstruction of his argument, but by responding with "muh racism".
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    He's a socialist so it pretty much goes without saying.
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    I have a number of issues with Sadiq Khan but one of my main issues with him is his and his supporters' focus on him being a Muslim. I strongly believe that a person's race, gender, sexual orientation, etc... should have nothing to do with his or her election to a position of power. London is a very important city, both economically and politically. If he's voted simply because 'his religion will send a message to the U.K.'s enemies'. then we should perhaps forget discussing policies at all and just go and pick minorities from East London.
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    I have a number of issues with Sadiq Khan but one of my main issues with him is his and his supporters' focus on him being a Muslim. I strongly believe that a person's race, gender, sexual orientation, etc... should have nothing to do with his or her election to a position of power. London is a very important city, both economically and politically. If he's voted simply because 'his religion will send a message to the U.K.'s enemies'. then we should perhaps forget discussing policies at all and just go and pick minorities from East London.
    Muslim extremism is one of the biggest challenges facing the UK and having a secular muslim who has and will continue to fight muslim extremism is a huge positive. He'll provide a real role model to young muslims.

    That's not the only reason to vote him, but it's a great credit to him that he's took on extremism time and time again.

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    (Original post by Omen96)
    Because he is a terrorist sympathiser
    how'd you come up with that conclusion?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Because his campaign has been nothing more than a smear campaign to get support and trying to get Khan out of the running.Except he's not. He voted in favour of gay marriage even after receiving death threats. He had a fatwa issued against him and was condemned by British-based hardline Muslim clerics, who have accused him of ‘selling out’ his religion.
    he just did that to get votes, lol.
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    (Original post by Sayed0123)
    What hardships? He achieved it all fair and square. Jeremy Corbyn could have been a successful person like Cameron but he didn't work hard or have the necessary aptitude to succeed. The fact is that David Cameron is the one who represents working people in Britain- Jeremy Corbyn (and his shadow Sadiq Khan) stand for people who rely on welfare and don't work hard like the rest of us- he's going to increase welfare payments, fail to stop the flow of immigration, increase corporation tax (forcing businesses to leave the UK) and he knows nothing about how a free market economy works.
    The Tories have failed on that too.
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    (Original post by BasharAssad)
    he just did that to get votes, lol.
    No politician would do that just for votes.
 
 
 
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