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Have you ever felt like your view of society etc is slightly skewed?

I ask because, being from the other end of the spectrum in terms of the education I've recieved, I feel like my view is skewed quite a bit, and I've often made assumptions about the general populace that don't hold true at all.
Original post by champ_mc99
How much do you pay per year?


At mine, roughly £10k per year. But I think it's gone up to about £12k now.
Original post by Serine Soul
Have you ever felt like your view of society etc is slightly skewed?

I ask because, being from the other end of the spectrum in terms of the education I've recieved, I feel like my view is skewed quite a bit, and I've often made assumptions about the general populace that don't hold true at all.


What kind of assumptions have you made?

My view of society probably did get skewed in a way. I always knew that there were people who didn't have much money or did things that aren't considered to be "posh", but then I underestimated what a high proportion of people that was.
Original post by tazarooni89
At mine, roughly £10k per year. But I think it's gone up to about £12k now.


Damn. No point in going to school if you have a family with that kinda cash.

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Original post by tazarooni89
What kind of assumptions have you made?

My view of society probably did get skewed in a way. I always knew that there were people who didn't have much money or did things that aren't considered to be "posh", but then I underestimated what a high proportion of people that was.


I assumed that most people in Britain are from a working class background (i.e manual and lower paid work) when it's really not like that. I would feel like I was in the majority in terms of what my parents earned etc, when I was actually in the minority.

Strange world isn't it? :redface:
Original post by celloel
How much were your school's fees, what grades did you get (GCSE/A Level) and would you say it was worth your parent's money? Do you think you would have done as well (grades-wise) if you'd gone to a state school?


£14k a year
1a* 5as 3 bs
Yes
No. Going to my school got me into politics.

Also, people think that you're rich because your parents pay this. A lot of parents, like mine, work 14 hours a day to get us to the school. I rarely have holidays (every few years) and only get things except food on my birthday and Christmas. We don't have it as easy as people think at least.
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I am at sixth form in a private school and personally think that I would have got the same grades I did regardless of what school I went to.
Honestly, even if I could afford to send my kids to private school (if I have kids!) I wouldn't send them to a private school. I think we live a very shielded life away from the rest of society and has led a lot of people to become weak as people and not be able to stand up for themselves or get their hands dirty. Most people in my school look down at those who have 'average' schooling as they call it and expect everyone to have money and buy expensive cars with expensive holidays.
As my parents were not particularly well of, they had applied for a bursary for me and I passed the means test and was the only person in my school to have 60% of my fees subsidised. So I don't really come from the same background as every one else in my school and feel like an outsider sometimes when everyone is showing of their expensive designer gear, without any idea of hard work because everything was handed to them on a platter!
Not trying to bash my school, but I do think that most people don't understand or have much knowledge of what society is like in general!:biggrin:
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Advice for a person who went to a state school and may end up at a private school for 6th form?
Just out of interest, what do your parents do career-wise?
Original post by Treen98
Just out of interest, what do your parents do career-wise?


Sorry, I'm not sure if your referring to me or someone else:s-smilie:
what investment bank do you work for now?
Original post by qwertyuipdoe
Sorry, I'm not sure if your referring to me or someone else:s-smilie:


Well for OP really but whoever wants to answer. I was just wondering


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Original post by Treen98
Just out of interest, what do your parents do career-wise?


Can't speak for OP but at the one I went to, most of our parents were expats and the tuition was covered by the companies they worked for, so like Shell, NATO, EPO, Maersk, Heineken, etc. It was a job perk to help them be willing to move countries to continue their job. Of course some of the kids just had rich CEO parents but the vast majority of us were just regular. My dad certainly wouldn't have sent us to my school if he'd had to pay for it himself :tongue:
Original post by alexschmalex
Can't speak for OP but at the one I went to, most of our parents were expats and the tuition was covered by the companies they worked for, so like Shell, NATO, EPO, Maersk, Heineken, etc. It was a job perk to help them be willing to move countries to continue their job. Of course some of the kids just had rich CEO parents but the vast majority of us were just regular. My dad certainly wouldn't have sent us to my school if he'd had to pay for it himself :tongue:


+1, same experience.

The tuition for my international schools usually ranged from £20-30k, covered by the company my dad worked for - in his case: Shell, BP and Saudi Aramco.

I think more of my friends now have exec parents as they've parachuted up the career ladder with international experience. My dad personally hit VP of Engineering, a couple others are now Global CEOs, CFOs, SVPs etc.


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Original post by balanced

Also, people think that you're rich because your parents pay this. A lot of parents, like mine, work 14 hours a day to get us to the school. I rarely have holidays (every few years) and only get things except food on my birthday and Christmas. We don't have it as easy as people think at least.


Just gonna address your last comment.

Trust me - you have it very, very easy. The idea you think you don't is kind of ridiculous to me. My parents also work hard, and I have a very privileged life (I go on holidays, get presents, etc) but they climbed up to where they were from being extremely poor as children. My mother never had a present, or a birthday cake or a holiday, during her childhood. In fact, her parents could barely pay for food. The state education system was awful (Cornwall in the 70s/80s) and to get out of the situation, my dad entered the forces, because there were no jobs in the town (not even minimum wage jobs - awful area). He's now an engineer and I live an amazing life - all because of their hard work.

The reasons I'm telling you this? You go to a £14k a year school, you have holidays every few years and you get presents every Birthday and Christmas. Understand how easy your life is and how lucky you have it. You are rich - the fact your parents can afford a £14k school alone shows that, but you ALSO get holidays and presents? Please. You're privileged. Don't pretend you aren't - don't say **** like "people don't realise how tough we have it" that you were intimating by saying you don't have it easy. You don't know how easy you do have it. Be grateful you're so lucky (I sure as hell am).

I guess it really shows the difference in our upbringings - I've been taught to be understanding of how good it is to get a present at Christmas, not complain because 'we only go on one holiday every three years because I go to a £14k/year school!' Gosh, how pathetic.
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Original post by celloel
Just gonna address your last comment.

Trust me - you have it very, very easy. The idea you think you don't is kind of ridiculous to me. My parents also work hard, and I have a very privileged life (I go on holidays, get presents, etc) but they climbed up to where they were from being extremely poor as children. My mother never had a present, or a birthday cake or a holiday, during her childhood. In fact, her parents could barely pay for food. The state education system was awful (Cornwall in the 70s/80s) and to get out of the situation, my dad entered the forces, because there were no jobs in the town (not even minimum wage jobs - awful area). He's now an engineer and I live an amazing life - all because of their hard work.

The reasons I'm telling you this? You go to a £14k a year school, you have holidays every few years and you get presents every Birthday and Christmas. Understand how easy your life is and how lucky you have it. You are rich - the fact your parents can afford a £14k school alone shows that, but you ALSO get holidays and presents? Please. You're privileged. Don't pretend you aren't - don't say **** like "people don't realise how tough we have it" that you were intimating by saying you don't have it easy. You don't know how easy you do have it. Be grateful you're so lucky (I sure as hell am).

I guess it really shows the difference in our upbringings - I've been taught to be understanding of how good it is to get a present at Christmas, not complain because 'we only go on one holiday every three years because I go to a £14k/year school!' Gosh, how pathetic.

I never said paying for food was easy, but it's possible to keep meals cheap by making things like pasta bake.
Original post by qwertyuipdoe
I am at sixth form in a private school and personally think that I would have got the same grades I did regardless of what school I went to.
Honestly, even if I could afford to send my kids to private school (if I have kids!) I wouldn't send them to a private school. I think we live a very shielded life away from the rest of society and has led a lot of people to become weak as people and not be able to stand up for themselves or get their hands dirty. Most people in my school look down at those who have 'average' schooling as they call it and expect everyone to have money and buy expensive cars with expensive holidays.
As my parents were not particularly well of, they had applied for a bursary for me and I passed the means test and was the only person in my school to have 60% of my fees subsidised. So I don't really come from the same background as every one else in my school and feel like an outsider sometimes when everyone is showing of their expensive designer gear, without any idea of hard work because everything was handed to them on a platter!
Not trying to bash my school, but I do think that most people don't understand or have much knowledge of what society is like in general!:biggrin:


I'd say it was quite different in my school.

I wouldnt agree that the people who went there had no idea about hard work. I think our school (and private schools in general) tend to achieve good results, mainly because they're able to provide a competitive environment in which hard work is seriously valued and incentivised.

As for looking down on people who don't have much money; that concept was totally non-existent at my school. For the most part, you wouldn't even know whether someone's parents were rich or not unless you'd been to their house. And even then, nobody really considered it. The culture was such that your "status" in front of your peers was entirely dependent upon your own academic or other achievements.

Everybody was well aware that nobody had any money of their own, and that being born to rich parents was just a matter of luck, and nothing to be particularly proud of. Even when it came to just socialising, birthday parties, going out with friends etc. people didn't used to spend extravagantly, because the money wasn't theirs. Some people (from both rich and poor families) had the odd weekend job at a supermarket or paper round, and relied entirely on that. As far as the pupils were concerned, it was sort of understood that everybody was poor.

Consequently, there were quite a few people on bursaries doing extremely well for themselves, getting into Oxbridge and the like, and being the most respected people in the school regardless of how much money they may or may not have had.
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Original post by Treen98
Just out of interest, what do your parents do career-wise?


My dad was a GP (passed away now). My mum studied medicine as well but never worked professionally because she had kids quite early.
Original post by Princepieman
+1, same experience.

The tuition for my international schools usually ranged from £20-30k, covered by the company my dad worked for - in his case: Shell, BP and Saudi Aramco.

I think more of my friends now have exec parents as they've parachuted up the career ladder with international experience. My dad personally hit VP of Engineering, a couple others are now Global CEOs, CFOs, SVPs etc.


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Would you send your kids to private schools from the experience that you had?

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