Having re-read the OP I retract that statement. I skim read it and though they were complain that leaflets were in polish, not that they were translated funny for pro EU slant. OP wasn't xenophobic.(Original post by KimKallstrom)
Having said that....."you don't support labour because you're a bit of a xenophobe." lol. Probably one of the most childish and delusional Labour-type statement I've read. In a nut shell the attitude why Labour are lightyears away from getting anywhere near power.
However, people like what I thought the OP were are in abundance. They are "a bit of a xenoophobe". It describes what they don't like.
Obviously calling them xenophobes is not a strategy to try and get them to vote labour. It does depend on the person. If they are someone that doesn't want to be xenophobic it is possible to engage in a rational calm debate about the topic in my experience. Without insulting anyone. Others will require different methods. All political parties different messages for different people, often geared around manipulating people on your side. All we can just pander to it and punish immigrants and foreigners for no reason. Maybe a bit of blue labour, I don't really want blue labour though. I'd rather have third way New Labour than that.
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- 28-04-2016 00:12
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(Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
- 28-04-2016 00:22
You would never support Labour because they made one bad decision?(Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
It's reasonable for them to have printed such information in Polish, given that you are right they might speak English, but they almost certainly speak Polish, sounds clever to me.(Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
If they were clever they would have hired one of them to write the thing in the first place.(Original post by JamesN88)
They printed it as a bullet point under a heading entitled "THE LABOUR PARTY - Wsparice Partiu" which(according to Google Translate) translates to "THE LABOUR PARTY - Support Batch".(Original post by mackemforever)
Of course there are huge numbers of Poles in this country who speak good English but there are also a huge number who either don't speak any or who speak very limited English. Why is it such a bad thing to try and make this kind of information more accessible to them?(Original post by Good bloke)
That is easy to answer. Any significant activity to help non-English speakers who live here (rather than tourist and business visitors) acts as a disincentive to them to learn the language and to fully integrate. They are consequently likely to be slower to do so.(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
Go to any western European country and they will have tourist leaflets, menus and books etc in English as well as their local languages.(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
I knew a Danish girl who was over hear learning english so she could study chemistry back home where the textbooks and course is in English.(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
English speaking natives who complain about a mix of languages coexisting in their country are so incredibly entitled and whiny when you look at how prevalent their native language is around the world.(Original post by KimKallstrom)
Labour treat all working class people like handicapped morons. That's why they only trust the working class to live within a welfare trap instead of allowing them the conditions to become self-sufficient(Original post by KimKallstrom)
UK is actually well ahead of the curve with sort of thing, which is good because not everybody is going to be fluent fresh off the boat. Integration is never instant and people should be helped at first in reasonable ways such as this.
- 28-04-2016 00:39
I don't see a problem with them writing it in Polish. Addressing someone in their native language is a nice gesture, even if they do speak English. They should obviously have got it correct though.
They support staying in the EU, so it's more likely just them saying that they support staying in the EU and the bad translation changing the meaning slightly(if the distinction exists in Polish).
(Original post by KimKallstrom)
- 28-04-2016 03:11
I'm no lover of the Tories either man but reality is what it is. Labour is meant to be the party of the working person. The clue is in the name. But times change right?
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(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
- 29-04-2016 16:50
You don;t support labour because you are a bit of a xenophobe.
Go to any western European country and they will have tourist leaflets, menus and books etc in English as well as their local languages. I knew a Danish girl who was over hear learning english so she could study chemistry back home where the textbooks and course is in English. English speaking natives who complain about a mix of languages coexisting in their country are so incredibly entitled and whiny when you look at how prevalent their native language is around the world.
This is what the future is going to look like. Grow up.
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