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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Sorry to hear that. It is never too late. Try to join sports societies like the Boat Club or other ones. The Boat Club (boaties!) is known to have a very close-knit community. As long as you keep up with training e.g. erging sessions and what not, they will welcome you with open arms. It is very time consuming, so you need to be sure about it.

    You also don't have to limit yourself to your course or college. The beauty of Cambridge is that you can have very close friends in other Colleges that you may not even feel alone.

    The great thing is that you don't seem to be struggling academically with a course like Physics. Since it has been almost a year, you should think about how to arrange your schedule, so that you can combine several activities for next term.

    There are loads of College and University activities, you don't have to limit yourself to just sports. Be more flexible.

    You should focus on next year. After your exams, you would be thinking of going home for holidays (and so would others - especially home students).

    Good luck in your exams.
    I know I created this forum as an issue of socialising but my work will always come first so thats why academically things are not bad and thats a really advise, thank you
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    Hi,
    First of all, I empathise with you based on all the stress you've been feeling. That's quite a convergence of factors; not wanting to drop out is very understandable. No wonder you're tired of it. I think you demonstrate an admiral level-headedness not to be considering it!

    My take on the situation is that the universities of Oxford and Cambridge are, in part, training a future elite: a future elite that will act with sociopathic arrogance and heartlessness against the population. It's in the job description of being part of the ruling class' band of henchmen. Unfortunately, you are having to rub shoulders with them at the moment.

    Here is my advice: to take it as an opportunity, where possible, to cultivate insight into how these people operate (whilst doing what is necessary to meet your own needs, of course, and first and foremost). How do they views themselves, others, and society? This privileged insight could serve you and your work well throughout the rest of your life. In terms of meeting your immediate need to meet people, I would suggest looking a bit further afield. Have you tried groups outside of your college, in other departments, or - if beed be - in the local area? Don't be afraid to look as far and as wide as you need to in order to find people you enjoy being with.

    It's impossible to say what is going on with you friend. It could be down to so many factors. It's a shame but if he seems to continue to take a funny turn then perhaps your energies would be better invested elsewhere.

    Bonne continuation!
    Thank you very much! what you said made me feel better!
    also are you a oxbridge student yourself?
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Hi, are you studying or did you study at Oxbridge? You seem to have a confident assertion that they area future elite that will act with sociopathic arrogance and heartlessness against the population.
    Not all but said group are amongst them.

    No, despite having a place I decided against it and went to study in France instead. My father, a university professor, advised me against integrating such an institution (Oxford) and continues to encourage me to look for the most productive means of developing my skills and talents with a view to reducing world suffering. Doing undergrad at Oxford just didn't come into this for me.

    NB. I visited (Oxford) for a summer school; I've read about the lives of individuals who have attended (eg. Bertrand Russell); know people at Oxbridge; watch the modern day top-échelon politician carefully; and discuss the situation regarding these institutions with a range of - according to my assessment - erudite individuals. These are some of the main sources for my evaluation of the situation. Then there is the piecing together, which is a large part of it...
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    Not all but said group are amongst them.

    No, despite having a place I decided against it and went to study in France instead. My father, a university professor, advised me against integrating such an institution (Oxford) and continues to encourage me to look for the most productive means of developing my skills and talents with a view to reducing world suffering. Doing undergrad at Oxford just didn't come into this for me.

    NB. I visited (Oxford) for a summer school; I've read about the lives of individuals who have attended (eg. Bertrand Russell); know people at Oxbridge; watch the modern day top-échelon politician carefully; and discuss the situation regarding these institutions with a range of - according to my assessment - erudite individuals. These are some of the main sources for my evaluation of the situation. Then there is the piecing together, which is a large part of it...
    I think that it is unfair for you to use such words for two institutions that have been educating scholars for more than 800 years.

    Yes, there are bad apples, just like at other top universities including UCL, Manchester, Harvard, Yale and Princeton. However, the overall group are not or have not been trained to be sociopaths.

    I respect your decision to have turned down Oxford for University life in France, but if you really wanted to change something, you would have matriculated at Oxford and tried to change things for yourself on the inside.

    If you look at the current debate going on in Oxbridge, you will see that students are fighting for better, whether it is against modern-day or historical discrimination against women, Jewish people, LGBTQ or black people, how climate change is engaged on the College campuses or even how social mobility can be improved to help the poorest in society.

    You can see them in the #RhodesMustFall campaign at Oxford to the #ITooAmCambridge campaign at Cambridge. There are many causes that students are raising awareness and fighting for on their University campuses. They are not just waiting to rule the world after their Congregation.
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    My take on the situation is that the universities of Oxford and Cambridge are, in part, training a future elite: a future elite that will act with sociopathic arrogance and heartlessness against the population. It's in the job description of being part of the ruling class' band of henchmen. Unfortunately, you are having to rub shoulders with them at the moment.
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    LoL at Des Lumieres and my heart goes out to the threadstarter because a lot of that social arrogance is real. The advice about the boaties is good and I'd go with that if that was me.
    GL OP! aloooauh
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    (Original post by Rhetorical Hips)
    Exactly.....



    How have you been doing?
    Good luck with your first tripos!
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    (Original post by vincrows)
    Exactly.....



    How have you been doing?
    Good luck with your first tripos!
    In all empirical honesty, ask yourself what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons. Then consider the intelligent improvements they have made to society for the majority of people (there are none) - that should keep you busy for the rest of your life in a futility that at least surpasses the serenading of a band of imbeciles in terms of the service to humanity resulting from it.

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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    In all empirical honesty, ask yourself what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons. Then consider the intelligent improvements they have made to society for the majority of people (there are none) - that should keep you busy for the rest of your life in a futility that at least surpasses the serenading a band of imbeciles in terms of the resulting service to humanity.
    Not everyone who goes to Oxbridge is a "neocon".

    And even fewer (if any notables) specifically went to Cambridge.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Not everyone who goes to Oxbridge is a "neocon".

    And even fewer (if any notables) specifically went to Cambridge.
    I never made reference to everyone, only the neocons (of which group a high proportion attended)!
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    In all empirical honesty, ask yourself what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons. Then consider the intelligent improvements they have made to society for the majority of people (there are none) - that should keep you busy for the rest of your life in a futility that at least surpasses the serenading of a band of imbeciles in terms of the service to humanity resulting from it.

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    You're funny.
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    I never made reference to everyone, only the neocons (of which group a high proportion attended)!
    You said: "what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons." So how can anyone check unless they are notable.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    You said: "what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons." So how can anyone check unless they are notable.

    Anyway, there are idiots everywhere. Including on TSR...
    LoL he is quite rude and arrogant isn't he?
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    LoL he is quite rude and arrogant isn't he?
    She.

    But a bit "neocon" perhaps, yes...
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    (Original post by Des_Lumières)
    In all empirical honesty, ask yourself what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons. Then consider the intelligent improvements they have made to society for the majority of people (there are none) - that should keep you busy for the rest of your life in a futility that at least surpasses the serenading of a band of imbeciles in terms of the service to humanity resulting from it.

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    Do you like sour grapes?
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    (Original post by jneill)
    She.

    But a bit "neocon" perhaps, yes...
    She does seem to be an intellectual neocon to me.
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    WHAT ARE YOU? Des_Lumières
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    (Original post by jneill)
    You said: "what is the most frequent alma mater amongst this current batch of neocons." So how can anyone check unless they are notable.

    Anyway, there are idiots everywhere. Including on TSR...
    I appreciate the passive aggressive shroud you have cast over your final remark to me - so preferable to a fit of anger malfunction. That's just messy.

    Well, as I understood it we were discussing the behaviour and mentality of arrogant individuals who are involved in managing the country. I pointed out that more rather than less of the aspiring establishment workers at Oxbridge would end up as henchmen if they were keen to work to impose neoliberalism on populations (what a goal!); that means politicians, bankers, ect. Then there are those who will go in for directly profiting from it (helped by their old university chums in government, mind).

    The small number on the inside of the invisible atrophied heart of the world order pumping blood to the invisible hand of gov. are further from view - and an even smaller minority. It's possible do research on them nevertheless (most of them did not attend Oxbridge - they didn't need to).

    My key point was this: Oxbridge is on some level a training ground for the worker bees of neoliberalism. That much is evident to s/he who does not even look seriously into the matter.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    She does seem to be an intellectual neocon to me.
    Not too sure about that.
    She (or he, or whatever) sounds more like someone who doesn't have much real life knowledge of Oxbridge students in modern days, but just brainwashed by popular media and hearsay.
    Looks more like desperately trying to sound intelligent......

    She seems to have very strong opinions on lots of things, though........
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    WHAT ARE YOU? Des_Lumières
    A human being: breathing, feeling, walking, talking, and... thinking!
 
 
 
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