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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    Absolutely
    It would be a different question if we were talking about stopping autism in any children born after this point, though I'm not certain that my decision would be different.

    I have worked with many children and adults with autism and it is simply part of what makes them them. I am not sure what would be gained by taking a 40 year old profoundly autistic man and "curing" his autism. Do we expect him to be any happier now that he is cognisant of the fact that he has spent 40 years broadly unaware of things that will now seem massively important - love, money etc. He now has to learn rudimentary skills, will possibly become aware of people's comments and perceptions after a time. This is ignoring critical learning ages. What if this man now spends the rest of his life still unable to talk or articulate himself at all, unable to properly interact with the world around him but also no longer feels comfortable with his favourite toys, no longer loves drinking tea or building things.

    The idea of taking everyone's autism away doesn't only rob people competent to make the decision of the right to make it, but quite possibly robs those who are not competent of a great deal more.
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    It would be a different question if we were talking about stopping autism in any children born after this point, though I'm not certain that my decision would be different.

    I have worked with many children and adults with autism and it is simply part of what makes them them. I am not sure what would be gained by taking a 40 year old profoundly autistic man and "curing" his autism. Do we expect him to be any happier now that he is cognisant of the fact that he has spent 40 years broadly unaware of things that will now seem massively important - love, money etc. He now has to learn rudimentary skills, will possibly become aware of people's comments and perceptions after a time. This is ignoring critical learning ages. What if this man now spends the rest of his life still unable to talk or articulate himself at all, unable to properly interact with the world around him but also no longer feels comfortable with his favourite toys, no longer loves drinking tea or building things.

    The idea of taking everyone's autism away doesn't only rob people competent to make the decision of the right to make it, but quite possibly robs those who are not competent of a great deal more.
    We've discussed cures before on Facebook and said we have no idea what it's going to do. It's also what makes a person them. Of course, I would love to be in the situation where I can interact properly and fully understand what people really mean.
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    (Original post by benfr)
    This thread is ridiculous. Autistic people are the same as anyone else. I actually find this offensive!
    How is it offensive? I doubt that anyone wants their child to have autism, just like any other disability
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    We've discussed cures before on Facebook and said we have no idea what it's going to do. It's also what makes a person them. Of course, I would love to be in the situation where I can interact properly and fully understand what people really mean.
    For a second there I thought you meant that you and I had discussed it on Facebook. I was very confused :lol:
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    For a second there I thought you meant that you and I had discussed it on Facebook. I was very confused :lol:
    lol

    It comes up quite often. The general argument is that no-one can predict what a cure will do. In part, we'd be changing someone's personality.
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    Just to clarify we are not all brainiac Sheldon Cooper's or Rain Man savants... There are those of us on the spectrum who are just... average. And that's okay too.

    And to answer your question.. No. That would mean that I would be gone.

    I personally do not want to get rid of my autism, mainly because it is one of the main components that make me... me. Many people say that one should not be defined by their autism/disorder. But personally, it is very difficult for me to say that autism is a separate entity if that makes sense. I mean, it has had a profound impact on how I experience and perceive the world around me, my experience as a girl on the spectrum has shaped my likes and dislikes, aspects of my personality etc. If my autism was to be "purged", I am very sure that the person I am now would be gone.

    I don't want to paint a romanticised view of life on the spectrum, there is nothing fun about being unable to connect with other human beings, or not being able to complete simple tasks because the instructions given seem too "vague" for the autistic brain to comprehend.. But, it is a part of me that I have accepted.
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    (Original post by LibertyMan)
    I wouldn't. Autists are actually extremely valuable in that they give an alternative perspective to life. They bring up things casual scum don't even comprehend in their vain existence. And they're also very good at maths and logic, let's not forget.
    I was like yeah yeah up until the casual scum part... Wtf is that?
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    (Original post by LibertyMan)
    I wouldn't. Autists are actually extremely valuable in that they give an alternative perspective to life. They bring up things casual scum don't even comprehend in their vain existence. And they're also very good at maths and logic, let's not forget.
    People with autism should not be judged so no, I won't play God.
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    (Original post by LibertyMan)
    If you had a magic button that could get rid of all autism, would you?
    No, because it would mean the end of this forum too.
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    I was like yeah yeah up until the casual scum part... Wtf is that?
    I think this may have been intended as a troll thread
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    Personally yes, my little sister has autism and I don't love her any less because of it, it's just I see how much she struggles because of it. She can't talk so often if she's upset she can't explain what's wrong so it's hard to help. Don't be so quick to label people who have autism as 'smart' because it's a spectrum condition, it affects everyone differently.
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    Autism =/= Rainman.
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    (Original post by Tootles)
    I'm not sure if this is a yes/no joke or pun or an actual question :iiam:

    I am pretty good at Boolean. Maths isn't a strong field for me at all but I can do that one. Why?
    I was making a joke :P
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    (Original post by mariapops)
    Personally yes, my little sister has autism and I don't love her any less because of it, it's just I see how much she struggles because of it. She can't talk so often if she's upset she can't explain what's wrong so it's hard to help. Don't be so quick to label people who have autism as 'smart' because it's a spectrum condition, it affects everyone differently.
    By playing God and making the decision to remove it from her is judging her for who she is. Apparently you do not think she is perfect as she is and you feel you need to "improve" her. Disgraceful. Anyone who says yes on this thread is a disgusting human being
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    By playing God and making the decision to remove it from her is judging her for who she is. Apparently you do not think she is perfect as she is and you feel you need to "improve" her. Disgraceful. Anyone who says yes on this thread is a disgusting human being
    You completely Misunderstood what I said. She is the most perfect person I know but my point is she struggles immensely because of her autism. She can't talk to her own family and express herself to us and that must be so hard for her because I see her trying hard and if I could make that better for her, I would in a heartbeat so don't call me disgusting unless you have see. someone you love struggle. As for your playing God argument, doctors treat other conditions. You see the flaw in your logic,right?
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    By playing God and making the decision to remove it from her is judging her for who she is. Apparently you do not think she is perfect as she is and you feel you need to "improve" her. Disgraceful. Anyone who says yes on this thread is a disgusting human being
    Nobody will ever be perfect, but nobody wants to see their child/sibling suffer either. Can be argued that it's disgraceful to allow someone to struggle when you could help them.

    You've just said 'anyone who says yes is a disgraceful human being' after you've just talked about not judging people
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    (Original post by cherryred90s)
    Nobody will ever be perfect, but nobody wants to see their child/sibling suffer either. Can be argued that it's disgraceful to allow someone to struggle when you could help them.

    You've just said 'anyone who says yes is a disgraceful human being' after you've just talked about not judging people
    I believe you can judge people for the decisions they make but not how they are born. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    I believe you can judge people for the decisions they make but not how they are born. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE
    So it's fine for people to refer to you as disgraceful for allowing your child to suffer? Ok great
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    (Original post by cherryred90s)
    So it's fine for people to refer to you as disgraceful for allowing your child to suffer? Ok great
    I can help my child through various means, and I would rather put the decision to her/him. For me to make the decision as a way of "improving" my kid is disgraceful
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    I was making a joke :P
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