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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I wouldn't disown my child. It takes a lot to even admit to yourself and get comfortable with your own identity so if they came and told me that I'd be very much understanding and appreciative. Islam teaches you can have feelings for those of the same sex, but you cannot physically act on those feelings. A marriage is not valid until it is consummated so gay marriage is therefore illegal as you would need to have sex to make it valid and homosexual sex is forbidden. So we'd talk through other options. Talk through how they feel etc. I don't know what the outcome would be with regards if they had feelings for a person. What I'm trying to say is they will still be my child and I will love them dearly and hurt anyone who makes them feel bad.
    I respect you much more than the previous posters but again - gay marriage is not illegal in this country. As such, you can't pretend it is. Islamists in the United Kingdom must adhere to British law. Religion is separate from that. It's useless saying they shouldn't act because they will and will want to and they have the right to be inlove and happy. If I am misunderstanding you, please explain further.
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    religion is good at this
    although it has been refreshing to hear a couple of muslims above saying they wouldn't care
    Yes.

    And they deserve mounds of credit.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    So one of my cousins recently came out as a lesbian to her family after she turned down a bunch of marriage proposals. Her family are furious and have told her to move out until she chooses to marry a man because they seem to be way more worried about the community than what she wants.

    My cousin is heartbroken over this and she doesn't know what to do to get them talking to her again. She's moving in with her girlfriend soon and it got me wondering, Muslims, what would you do if your child came out as gay and had a partner? Would you accept them or not?
    #NotTrueMuslisms #NotOneOfUs #ReligionOfPeace
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    I'd support them the same way I'd support my heterosexual child
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    A gay muslim...hmm
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    (Original post by serine soul)
    i'd support them the same way i'd support my heterosexual child
    in terms of supporting them, how do you mean?
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    Honestly I would love them the same as I would if they were not homosexual because they should be happy, not living in fear because they like someone of the same gender.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    "Disappointed" - they haven't made some kind of decision to do something you feel is wrong. You haven't the right to feel that way at all. And they will want a partner - they should have the same life everybody else is allowed to have. Do not have children. All this *******s about "they're still my child", what, and that changes when they find someone they love? Pathetic. How can you honestly think you're entitled to stand between your child having the happiness you felt you were entitled to when you found someone you had kids with? Not fit.
    Fool.

    Would you not be disappointed if you child had some sort of illness, or didn't pass their exam, or decided to do something that you don't like? This is exactly the same as that. I don't want my child to be homosexual. But if they were, then not a lot changes. I just don't want to have my son or daughter do those sorts of things while they're living with me (whether they're straight or gay).

    Does it make you feel better to tell people what they're entitled to? How do you think you're entitled to tell me how to raise my children?
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    I respect you much more than the previous posters but again - gay marriage is not illegal in this country. As such, you can't pretend it is. Islamists in the United Kingdom must adhere to British law. Religion is separate from that. It's useless saying they shouldn't act because they will and will want to and they have the right to be inlove and happy. If I am misunderstanding you, please explain further.
    While it is not illegal and you have the right as a citizen to marry whoever you please you don't have to. I respect the choice others make that adhere to these laws. That is not to say I will impose sharia in this country and say it is forbidden for a woman to marry a woman, living in this country I need to follow British law and allows others too as well. When/if it comes to a question of my child wanting to marry someone of the same sex it gets a little more complicated, because as I understand it gay marriage is explicitly forbidden in Islam and I would still adhere to that. I wouldn't force them not to or forbid them to, what right do I have? Sorry if this is confusing! I'm still trying to formulate my own feelings towards it
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    Judging by the replies on this thread, I'd be very disappointed if my child came out as a Muslim.
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    I know. All I'm sayin is that havin kids is a headache anyway.

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    (Original post by donutellme)
    Fool.

    Would you not be disappointed if you child had some sort of illness, or didn't pass their exam, or decided to do something that you don't like? This is exactly the same as that. I don't want my child to be homosexual. But if they were, then not a lot changes. I just don't want to have my son or daughter do those sorts of things while they're living with me (whether they're straight or gay).

    Does it make you feel better to tell people what they're entitled to? How do you think you're entitled to tell me how to raise my children?
    Ha, calling me a fool for saying a parent should love and accept their child. Homosexuality isn't an exam, a test, a disease, an illness. I would not be didappointed in my child for any of those things you mentioned unless the reason I didn't like it was because it was harmful to others and unfair, or becauee my child had neglected their studies and so done poorly. Either way, they are not comparable. Your child would be struggling enough without your clouded religious ******** intervening in basic human compassion. They are your child at the end of the day. And what I dislike has nothing to do with it. My child and yours would be their own people. They can like things I hate and hate things I love. It is not complicated.

    Then you are an utter idiot. Your child is entitled to be inlove and happy. They don't have to be having be in your household to be in love - that qualm is entirely separate from what you originally insinuated.

    They are basic human rights and it is human nature and damaging to behave in the way you propose. Everyone is entitled to tell you that. And I am entitled to tell you how not to raise your child when it is essentially objectively horrendous because of the emotional and psychological damage it causes. Take it from somebody who knows first hand. And I felt it without the backing of religion.
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    (Original post by PoundTown)
    in terms of supporting them, how do you mean?
    'Please stay safe in whatever you do'
    'Do you want to bring them round for dinner?'
    'How are you and them doing?'
    'Please don't get pregnant' (obvs this doesn't apply if they're gay)
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    While it is not illegal and you have the right as a citizen to marry whoever you please you don't have to. I respect the choice others make that adhere to these laws. That is not to say I will impose sharia in this country and say it is forbidden for a woman to marry a woman, living in this country I need to follow British law and allows others too as well. When/if it comes to a question of my child wanting to marry someone of the same sex it gets a little more complicated, because as I understand it gay marriage is explicitly forbidden in Islam and I would still adhere to that. I wouldn't force them not to or forbid them to, what right do I have? Sorry if this is confusing! I'm still trying to formulate my own feelings towards it
    I understand you clearly now. However, gay marriage is not forbidden in this country and it is quite likely a muslim kid would leave islam after coming out. The faith would generally make his or her life hell in the vast majority of cases.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    People really need to stop saying "disappointed". It isn't some choive they made or an action they committed. You have no right to be disappointed.

    Furthermore, it would be utterly disgusting advice to tell your child to live a lonely and unhappy life being celibate - unless they wanted to be - just so you can feel better about yourself. Depriving your child of the love and relationships you had the luxury of having which led to you creating them, is literally one of the biggest crimes you can commit with your kids. If this is your attitude, do not have children. You'll destroy their life if they are gay.
    Yes, but it's forbidden to act on it. Relationship does not equal happiness so I'm not taking anything away from them. I'll treat them the same way since they're my child but I would obviously advice them against acting on it. OP asked for Muslims opinion, and I gave mine. Nothing you say will change it. End of
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Ha, calling me a fool for saying a parent should love and accept their child. Homosexuality isn't an exam, a test, a disease, an illness. I would not be didappointed in my child for any of those things you mentioned unless the reason I didn't like it was because it was harmful to others and unfair, or becauee my child had neglected their studies and so done poorly. Either way, they are not comparable. Your child would be struggling enough without your clouded religious ******** intervening in basic human compassion. They are your child at the end of the day. And what I dislike has nothing to do with it. My child and yours would be their own people. They can like things I hate and hate things I love. It is not complicated.

    Then you are an utter idiot. Your child is entitled to be inlove and happy. They don't have to be having be in your household to be in love - that qualm is entirely separate from what you originally insinuated.

    They are basic human rights and it is human nature and damaging to behave in the way you propose. Everyone is entitled to tell you that. And I am entitled to tell you how not to raise your child when it is essentially objectively horrendous because of the emotional and psychological damage it causes. Take it from somebody who knows first hand. And I felt it without the backing of religion.
    This is my personal opinion. No religion involved.

    Where in my posts have I said I wouldn't accept them? I've repeatedly said that I'll treat them as I always have.

    They can be in love all they like. But they had best run it past me. House rules. And if they want to act on anything (WHETHER STRAIGHT OR GAY), then they can wait.

    Where do all these rights come from? People are just making up rights all the time. What right are you referring to? And I don't plan on being an abusive father to my child, or horrendous in any way.... I'll be loving and caring no matter what.

    On top of that, what about my opinion? Does what I want for my child, what I want in my life and in my family not matter at all?
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    (Original post by stop888)
    Yes, but it's forbidden to act on it. Relationship does not equal happiness so I'm not taking anything away from them. I'll treat them the same way since they're my child but I would obviously advice them against acting on it. OP asked for Muslims opinion, and I gave mine. Nothing you say will change it. End of
    Oh come on, yes you are. A relationship is a significant part of human interaction, pleasure and happiness. That is at our core. Religion cannot temper with that.

    I am not trying to change your opinion and you should have given it as plainly as you have here. But now I am giving mine, accept it or don't - I don't care. I believe your attitude is very wrong and harmful.
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    (Original post by donutellme)
    This is my personal opinion. No religion involved.

    Where in my posts have I said I wouldn't accept them? I've repeatedly said that I'll treat them as I always have.

    They can be in love all they like. But they had best run it past me. House rules. And if they want to act on anything (WHETHER STRAIGHT OR GAY), then they can wait.

    Where do all these rights come from? People are just making up rights all the time. What right are you referring to? And I don't plan on being an abusive father to my child, or horrendous in any way.... I'll be loving and caring no matter what.

    On top of that, what about my opinion? Does what I want for my child, what I want in my life and in my family not matter at all?
    Then why are you bothering to comment in relation to the thread if it isn't religiously driven? This was targeted at Muslims.

    Telling them you are disappointed and wouldn't condone a relationship is definitely implying that you are not as accepting as you claim.

    They do not have to run having a relationship past you. They are their own people. Having sex in your house, I can fully appreciate is not okay if you deem it so. A relationship and being happy and in love is very different; you did not reference solely to sex.

    Then sound like it. Your attitude does not mirror that. And the rights I outlined. People have the right to be inlove, to be happy, and to be psychologically stable as long as they are not harming others.

    You can have your opinion and I can have my counter to it. Your expectations should not stand in the way of what your child wants in this context. They aren't your toys. They are their own. You cannot mould them into something and expect them to be the epitome of everything you set out. They are not somebodies design project. There are boundaries you don't cross and you are setting yourself up for continued disappointment if you expect so much from your kids and pre-plan their lives for them. My parents did it with me and that is all that eats them up about who I am to this date and it has been 6 or 7 years now since I came out: they wanted me to marry a woman, have my own kids, blah blah blah and what I want is not important. That is wrong.

    It causes so many difficulties. For example, if you expect your boy to love football and they don't but his brother does, you favour his brother automatically and the other gets left out of doing things with you because of a lack of mutual interests. Kids notice these things. It doesn't help them.
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    (Original post by PoundTown)
    er,imagine a **** slurping muslim:/
    There are many of them, get over it. Did you know the Middle East has the highest rates of gay porn usage in the world? Look what suppression does. It doesn't solve the problem, guys.
 
 
 
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