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    (Original post by xylas)
    Fine, set amount of money £10,000. Don't deny that some people spend that much on computers.
    Have you got a £10,000 laptop or desktop?
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Ok but compared to the best desktop, you would still choose the best laptop in the world even if it was noisier and had worse thermals?
    The best laptop in the world wouldn't match the best desktop in the world, so no. But assuming you mean "desktop as good as the best laptop", then my answer would still depend on how bad the noise/heat issues were, plus battery life. If o couldn't use it without headphones, if I couldn't use it on my lap, or if I only got a couple of hours of battery while gaming (which is pretty standard for high tier gaming laptops) then it pretty much mitigates the advantages the laptop has in the first place- that of being able to use portably. You may as well use a much quieter desktop.
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    (Original post by Acsel)
    I'd actually prefer desktops, even if laptops had exactly the same performance, for several reasons.

    So even if a laptop offered the same performance as a desktop it doesn't offer the same user experience. You can't swap out components. You need dozens of ports or an external dock to meet user needs. Battery life degrades. Storage isn't comparable. If a laptop somehow had an amazing battery that lasted for years without charging and never degraded, could fit a petabyte SSD, offered free access to all components and had wireless peripherals that always worked perfectly then maybe I'd want a laptop. But then I would never be using the screen, keyboard or trackpad since I'd have external displays, a keyboard and mouse. Thus meaning the only reason to have the laptop is portability.
    Excellent answer! You have shown in depth knowledge of this subject and I am inclined to agree with you.

    In this scenario as you said, you would mostly be using the better peripherals than the inbuilt laptop but if you ever needed portability (even around the house) then this would be an absolute advantage.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Fine, set amount of money £10,000. Don't deny that some people spend that much on computers.
    You'd hit a performance ceiling far below that point in laptops. The most powerful laptop GPU configurations currently on the market (GTX 980M SLI and GTX 980 Desktop Edition) are substantially lower tier than the multiple SLI/Crossfire'd Titan/Fury-class desktop GPUs you could cram into a desktop case for this sort of money.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    You have an inability to set a fair question and an inability to read. Its distorted to try and give you the answer you wnat, rather than one discussing the genuine pros and cons or one that has any basis in reality.

    Both of them have pros and cons. All you have done is say lets pretend laptops have no cons or lets make sure desktops have no advantages only disadvantges, then which one would people choose? Utterly ridiculous.

    I have both, but if I had to choose or rebuy then I know which one to pick.
    Someone with different needs may make a different choice.
    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Have you got a £10,000 laptop or desktop?
    Why so personal? Have I touched a nerve?

    Btw I am glad that you gave an honest answer which I thanked you for.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Excellent answer! You have shown in depth knowledge of this subject and I am inclined to agree with you.

    In this scenario as you said, you would mostly be using the better peripherals than the inbuilt laptop but if you ever needed portability (even around the house) then this would be an absolute advantage.
    Arent peripherals on the outside, so they can be used equally with a laptop or a desktop as long as you have enough connectivity?
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Everything else you said about peripherals, ram, storage etc. is not correct.
    No, he has a point actually. There is a decreasing number of laptops where you can upgrade even the storage and ram. And as laptops get smaller & thinner, IO is ever more sacrificed, meaning you can't plug in as many peripherals into your laptop as you can on a desktop. Don't even mention USB hubs, etc because that begins to ruin the portability aspect which is pretty much the only thing going for laptops, which is the option you so clearly want to win.
    But for me, desktop all the way. More options for expansion, power and better value. If I needed a portable machine I'd probably actually rather build a mini itx machine than buy an underpowered laptop.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    If a desktop and a laptop have the same performance which one would you prefer? What reasons would you choose a desktop with worse performance over a laptop?

    Don't mention cost in your answers, assume money is infinite.
    You clearly want a laptop so just buy one
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    The best laptop in the world wouldn't match the best desktop in the world, so no. But assuming you mean "desktop as good as the best laptop", then my answer would still depend on how bad the noise/heat issues were, plus battery life. If o couldn't use it without headphones, if I couldn't use it on my lap, or if I only got a couple of hours of battery while gaming (which is pretty standard for high tier gaming laptops) then it pretty much mitigates the advantages the laptop has in the first place- that of being able to use portably. You may as well use a much quieter desktop.
    Ok so you seem to now be saying that the best possible desktop is better than the best possible laptop. That answers everything thank you.

    (Original post by Gofre)
    You'd hit a performance ceiling far below that point in laptops. The most powerful laptop GPU configurations currently on the market (GTX 980M SLI and GTX 980 Desktop Edition) are substantially lower tier than the multiple SLI/Crossfire'd Titan/Fury-class desktop GPUs you could cram into a desktop case for this sort of money.
    Yeah but think outside the box. SLI gtx 980 (MSI titan) = £4000. For the remainder buy external GPUs, wireless peripherals, monitors etc. and now you've got very similar performance and usability which some people may prefer.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Arent peripherals on the outside, so they can be used equally with a laptop or a desktop as long as you have enough connectivity?
    Exactly, that's why it's not an advantage of desktops as that user was suggesting.

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    No, he has a point actually. There is a decreasing number of laptops where you can upgrade even the storage and ram. And as laptops get smaller & thinner, IO is ever more sacrificed, meaning you can't plug in as many peripherals into your laptop as you can on a desktop. Don't even mention USB hubs, etc because that begins to ruin the portability aspect which is pretty much the only thing going for laptops, which is the option you so clearly want to win.
    But for me, desktop all the way. More options for expansion, power and better value. If I needed a portable machine I'd probably actually rather build a mini itx machine than buy an underpowered laptop.
    I have already discussed this. You could use wireless peripherals and docks. But in any case this is not an advantage of desktops. Also the fattest laptop still has an advantage over any desktop.
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    You clearly want a laptop so just buy one
    Actually it is the majority of TSR users on this forum who want a laptop, I'm still making up my mind while saving up.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Ok so basically you're major point in favour of a desktop in this scenario is no battery.

    Everything else you said about peripherals, ram, storage etc. is not correct.
    It is...You can have multiple hard drives in a desktop. And desktop motherboards generally have more RAM slots, for the most part. What they probably meant was that desktops are more expandable
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Ok so you seem to now be saying that the best possible desktop is better than the best possible laptop. That answers everything thank you..
    Not really. people are saying best is a subjective term. You can use various measures to get there.

    It really boils down to which computer meets your particular needs.

    A laptop can do things a dektop cannot i.e be portable.
    A desktop cna do things a laptop i,e power performance ratio.

    You really arent taking on board what people are saying. You would have veen better off by steeing a budget between £500 and £1500 and then asking people what they would buy and why.
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    (Original post by AstroNandos)
    desktop so I can run cs on 200fps

    but seriously this question is flawed as the main factor in deciding between laptop and desktop is cost for performance. The only advantage a laptop really has is portability, so assuming they had the same performance why wouldn't you choose a laptop?

    The question should be with a set amount of money, not as much as you can spend tbh
    Quick question, have for frames for CS dropped recently by any chance?
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    (Original post by TajwarC)
    It is...You can have multiple hard drives in a desktop. And desktop motherboards generally have more RAM slots, for the most part. What they probably meant was that desktops are more expandable
    Not really, the question is whether you want your expansion on the inside or the outside.
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    (Original post by TajwarC)
    Quick question, have for frames for CS dropped recently by any chance?
    Depends on the map
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Ok so you seem to now be saying that the best possible desktop is better than the best possible laptop. That answers everything thank you.



    Yeah but think outside the box. SLI gtx 980 (MSI titan) = £4000. For the remainder buy external GPUs, wireless peripherals, monitors etc. and now you've got very similar performance and usability which some people may prefer.
    That Titan has SLI 980M cards, not desktop grade cards. For around that price you could grab four Titan X graphics cards and an Intel 6700K, the have £6000 left for the rest of the system. The MSI Titan wouldn't be remotely on the same level as something you could put together for £10k.
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    Depends on the map
    Dust II has been a bit strange for me, getting between 220-300 when before it was like 290-300 solid
 
 
 
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