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German government plans to spend 93.6 billion euros on refugees by end 2020 Watch

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    Fantastic. These people need help, and they're giving it to them. If I were a German taxpayer, I would be delighted.
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    (Original post by Zas_21)
    Individuals who can strengthen the middle Eastern economy, less corruption and finally as you said less terrorist groups.............BUT our governments are too stupid.
    Our governments are definitely too stupid, there's a real opportunity for change here, and not just in Europe, it's the best chance we have to change the whole of bloody Asia.

    If we really wanted to rock the boat we could point out how countries like Germany allow them to practice their religion while the Gulf states oppress them, for example by denying them refuge in times of war and shutting down mosques that disagree with certain sects.

    It's time to stop being victims of radical Islam, and start being exponents of 'radical' Islam
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    (Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
    Are the Muslim countries helping us?
    Yes they are

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6763366.html
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    (Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
    Our governments are definitely too stupid, there's a real opportunity for change here, and not just in Europe, it's the best chance we have to change the whole of bloody Asia.

    If we really wanted to rock the boat we could point out how countries like Germany allow them to practice their religion while the Gulf states oppress them, for example by denying them refuge in times of war and shutting down mosques that disagree with certain sects.

    It's time to stop being victims of radical Islam, and start being exponents of 'radical' Islam
    Damn straight, i know many muslims also agree that the West needs to take action against ISIL and the middle East problem and the Refuge problem is a huge opportunity to do so .

    Poverty and ignorance are the breeding grounds for Radicalism just as it was for Communism.......but alas our governments would rather ignore the problem and beat around the bush.
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    I don't think immigrants will remain until 2020.. if you know what I mean.
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    Imagine if that money had gone to education or healthcare... Would happily see it go to those sectors rather than a group where the majority are single, fit men who are too cowardly to fight for their country.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Imagine if that money had gone to education or healthcare... Would happily see it go to those sectors rather than a group where the majority are single, fit men who are too cowardly to fight for their country.
    Or housing...
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Imagine if that money had gone to education or healthcare... Would happily see it go to those sectors rather than a group where the majority are single, fit men who are too cowardly to fight for their country.
    Is it cowardice to save ones self from persecution? and i do believe many of the refuges are family's trying to escape the war.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Imagine if that money had gone to education or healthcare... Would happily see it go to those sectors rather than a group where the majority are single, fit men who are too cowardly to fight for their country.
    Men are not the expendable gender. Besides, not everyone subscribes to nationalism; they didn't choose to wage war. If the British government decided to start killing protestors, leading to an all-out civil war with multiple factions fighting for control, my first thought would be to ensure the safety of myself and my family.

    It's easy to demonise refugees and call them "cowards" when you've never had the experience of living in a war-torn country :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    Men are not the expendable gender. Besides, not everyone subscribes to nationalism; they didn't choose to wage war. If the British government decided to start killing protestors, leading to an all-out civil war with multiple factions fighting for control, my first thought would be to ensure the safety of myself and my family.

    It's easy to demonise refugees and call them "cowards" when you've never had the experience of living in a war-torn country :rolleyes:
    What would have happened if the male populations of Poland, the UK, China, Burma, etc. fled when the Germans, Russians, Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Vietnamese, Thais, and Japanese invaded in WWII?
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    (Original post by Josb)
    Note that the €93.6bn prediction relies on the hypothesis that 55% of the migrants will have found a job by 2020...
    Which given that automation is taking over, will definitely happen..........
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    What would have happened if the male populations of Poland, the UK, China, Burma, etc. fled when the Germans, Russians, Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Vietnamese, Thais, and Japanese invaded in WWII?
    They tried.

    Lots of scientists fled and proved valuable.
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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    Men are not the expendable gender. Besides, not everyone subscribes to nationalism; they didn't choose to wage war. If the British government decided to start killing protestors, leading to an all-out civil war with multiple factions fighting for control, my first thought would be to ensure the safety of myself and my family.
    You would let your family behind like these brave young men?
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    I don't think immigrants will remain until 2020.. if you know what I mean.
    Why would they leave? Germany is going to spend more than a hundred billion on them.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    You would let your family behind like these brave young men?
    Some of these men have already had their families killed. Others leave in the hopes they can get them over here after they've settled, they'll probably leave their family with an elder of some sort (grandparents) who may have actively encouraged it due to desperate circumstances.

    Some are just cowards, thieves, single men who had no family to begin with, but let's not paint everyone with the same brush, a war zone is a war zone, it's not a very nice place to live in.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Imagine if that money had gone to education or healthcare... Would happily see it go to those sectors rather than a group where the majority are single, fit men who are too cowardly to fight for their country.

    You're trolling right? How can one be so simple minded.

    You obviously dont have knowledge of the conflicts that are occurring in the region under question, i recommend you get some background information instead of believing this fallacy that simpletons think is true.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    What would have happened if the male populations of Poland, the UK, China, Burma, etc. fled when the Germans, Russians, Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Vietnamese, Thais, and Japanese invaded in WWII?
    They fought because it was clear what they were fighting for/against. They had something to believe in, they had a homeland that was wealthy, a system that worked and that they were content with; they wanted to preserve their way of life and they knew exactly how to do it.

    The same cannot be said for Syria. It's a mess of a civil war. It's been over 4 years - those who initially tried to fight have become disillusioned and frankly, don't see the point anymore. Why shouldn't they flee if there's no incentive to fight, and absolutely no chance of winning?
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    Given Germanys record maybe it is best for the continent is this country is finally destroyed. Its chacellor caused the muslim invasion and if Germany was partitioned or economically weak it would never happened.

    The Frakfurt school and cultural marxism also comes actully from germany.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    Why would they leave? Germany is going to spend more than a hundred billion on them.
    Who said they'll leave on their own?
    Europeans are going to kick them out of Europe.
 
 
 
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