Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
x Turn on thread page Beta

Can't stop worrying about total drug-resistant infections? watch

Announcements
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ohgeez)
    The only myth here is that there is not a maximum sustainable global carrying capacity. 10 Billion is actually way beyond the carrying capacity of the planet because resources are already being depleted at a massive rate.

    So either you let population grow unchecked and have a massive die-off at some point or something gets done about it one way or the other through war or some killer disease culls a large part of the population.
    This is actually completely ****ing false. Sustainable energy solutions can easily meet the world's power needs. We are well below our potential capacity in food production. This is not to mention the colossal amount of resources that are essentially being wasted or recyclable resources that are degraded. Resource shortages won't go away just because we decrease to whatever population some quack decided was the maximum because the earth explodes. In fact, if our population decreased that much we'd have a massive surplus in production and hey, people would probably start reproducing again. The only really tangible squeeze that doesn't have a viable technology solution at the moment is water.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by the bear)
    unfortunately our species is programmed for agression & conflict.... it will all end in tears... pretty soon i would suggest
    You're uneducated.
    Offline

    10
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Unkempt_One)
    This is actually completely ****ing false. Sustainable energy solutions can easily meet the world's power needs. We are well below our potential capacity in food production. This is not to mention the colossal amount of resources that are essentially being wasted or recyclable resources that are degraded. Resource shortages won't go away just because we decrease to whatever population some quack decided was the maximum because the earth explodes. In fact, if our population decreased that much we'd have a massive surplus in production and hey, people would probably start reproducing again. The only really tangible squeeze that doesn't have a viable technology solution at the moment is water.
    Desalination and Water Recycling..? Although the solution's aren't as developed as those for food and energy it's certainly not been researched and developed.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Kaneki)
    Desalination and Water Recycling..? Although the solution's aren't as developed as those for food and energy it's certainly not been researched and developed.
    I am aware of those, I appended 'viable' because I know it's going to take more effort to get that to work.

    EDIT: Actually, desalination has made more progress recently than I realized. So water probably won't be a problem in the long term either.
    Offline

    7
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Unkempt_One)
    This is actually completely ****ing false. Sustainable energy solutions can easily meet the world's power needs. We are well below our potential capacity in food production. This is not to mention the colossal amount of resources that are essentially being wasted or recyclable resources that are degraded. Resource shortages won't go away just because we decrease to whatever population some quack decided was the maximum because the earth explodes. In fact, if our population decreased that much we'd have a massive surplus in production and hey, people would probably start reproducing again. The only really tangible squeeze that doesn't have a viable technology solution at the moment is water.
    Without fossil fuels we are already beyond carrying capacity. I guess in your head we can sustain a population of 20 Billion on freaking wind.
    Offline

    10
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ohgeez)
    Without fossil fuels we are already beyond carrying capacity. I guess in your head we can sustain a population of 20 Billion on freaking wind.
    Cough Nuclear Cough
    Offline

    7
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Kaneki)
    Cough Nuclear Cough
    Lots of probs with nuclear. Besides which fossil fuels have important uses beyond providing energy.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ohgeez)
    Without fossil fuels we are already beyond carrying capacity. I guess in your head we can sustain a population of 20 Billion on freaking wind.
    "M-muh carrying capacity" - overpopulation racists
    Offline

    10
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ohgeez)
    Lots of probs with nuclear. Besides which fossil fuels have important uses beyond providing energy.
    Also lots of probs with fossil fuels, google climate change and you'll be enlightened.. I don't see your point? In which case we would still be cave men scared to cook food with fire in case it burnt us...
    Offline

    7
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Unkempt_One)
    "M-muh carrying capacity" - overpopulation racists
    Say what now?
    Offline

    18
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Drunk Punx)
    I'm not sure if this is perverse or whatever, but I find it quite amusing that legal drugs could have indirectly contributed to more deaths than their illegal counterparts some time after 2050.

    Worst case scenario, obviously. And not entirely relevant. But worth a mention for some reason or another.
    I'm not sure how you reason that legal drugs are contributing to deaths. Legal drugs are preventing infections from killing us now. They may cease to be able to do that eventually, by which point the infections will begin to kill us. Under no circumstances do the drugs kill anyone.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    Anyhow the take-away from this is that overpopulation is not a problem but if new antibiotics aren't developed we'll probably all die.
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Unkempt_One)
    You're uneducated.
    you are misinformed
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by the bear)
    you are misinformed
    On your side: Quacks, environmentalists and people who know nothing about economics.
    On my side: Scientists, engineers, innovators and rich philanthropists.

    It's not really a contest to be honest.
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Unkempt_One)
    On your side: Quacks, environmentalists and people who know nothing about economics.
    On my side: Scientists, engineers, innovators and rich philanthropists.

    It's not really a contest to be honest.
    On your side: you

    On my side: me


    It's not really a contest to be honest.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    I'm not sure how you reason that legal drugs are contributing to deaths. Legal drugs are preventing infections from killing us now. They may cease to be able to do that eventually, by which point the infections will begin to kill us. Under no circumstances do the drugs kill anyone.
    Again, I didn't say that they kill anyone, I said that they "indirectly contribute" towards the death toll as a result of their existence.

    Also worth mentioning is that I wasn't being entirely serious, as my first post on here wasn't really relevant to the topic at hand (and I believe I said as much within the same post).
 
 
 
Reply
Submit reply
Turn on thread page Beta
TSR Support Team

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 Support Team members looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Updated: May 23, 2016
Poll
Do you like carrot cake?
Useful resources

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.