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    Norbert Hofer
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    Alexander Van deer Belen
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    What has been the trend in most of the world recently (I.e. where things are going badly) the trend is for the party or people that are different to the establishment do well, so in rather left wing areas the right do well, where the right is the establishment the left do well, and where the centre is in charge the extremes do well

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    Common denominator is massive discontent, doesn't appear to be purely economic either since many people still live very comfortably off, there's a serious cultural issue.
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    (Original post by DanteTheDoorWot)
    Common denominator is massive discontent, doesn't appear to be purely economic either since many people still live very comfortably off, there's a serious cultural issue.
    You can be economically well off and still discontent. Say your wages have gone down, or even barely risen, over the last decade, would you be content even if well off? Probably not, and that's only talking about income nominally.

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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Hofer.
    Honestly not sure if i'd prefer far right or left, I think the right are less likely to build awful modern architecture though so they get my vote.

    Well, if they start killing people, at least they'll live in buildings nice enough not to want to die.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You can be economically well off and still discontent. Say your wages have gone down, or even barely risen, over the last decade, would you be content even if well off? Probably not, and that's only talking about income nominally.

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    But there's a limit to how discontent you can be in that situation. Would you vote for a character who you have been led to believe is literally Hitler incarnate? Probably not.

    Its nothing like what you'd get from hyperinflation, which would reduce all your savings to zilch. That would cause real discontent.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    But there's a limit to how discontent you can be in that situation. Would you vote for a character who you have been led to believe is literally Hitler incarnate? Probably not.

    Its nothing like what you'd get from hyperinflation, which would reduce all your savings to zilch. That would cause real discontent.
    When people are used to year on year comfortable increases in standards if that stops for the best part of a decade or even goes into reverse people aren't going to be pleased. when the current system fails them for years they will lose faith in it.

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    I'd prefer Greens over Hofer , not a fan of the far right.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    When people are used to year on year comfortable increases in standards if that stops for the best part of a decade or even goes into reverse people aren't going to be pleased. when the current system fails them for years they will lose faith in it.

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    True, but Europeans aren't used to comfortable year on year increases, Europe has been virtually stagnating for a long time. 1% (GDP) growth is pretty much average. 2% annual growth is now seen as amazing, and something rarely achieved, when 4% used to be relatively commonplace.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    True, but Europeans aren't used to comfortable year on year increases, Europe has been virtually stagnating for a long time. 1% (GDP) growth is pretty much average. 2% annual growth is now seen as amazing, and something rarely achieved, when 4% used to be relatively commonplace.
    You have kinda just agreed with what I was saying...

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    I would like Van Der Bellen to win, however It'd be rather interesting to see what would happen if Hofer won, especially as his party is anti-EU.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    52% overall? Neither will get that.



    The far left - not only the far right - are doing well in many countries, e.g. Spain, Germany, Greece of course, Italy, Sweden. Politics is getting very polarised. Its not only Europe, either. Just look at the US, where you have Trump and Sanders.
    If what the other poster said is true, then he can afford to lose the postal vote by 1% and still win, things are looking good I would cautiously say.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    True, but [blah blah blah]
    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You have kinda just agreed with what I was saying...

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    And I acknowledged that.

    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    If what the other poster said is true, then he can afford to lose the postal vote by 1% and still win, things are looking good I would cautiously say.
    Postal votes never favour the right wing, though
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    I know the green has won, does anybody know how tight or if there is likely to be a recount?

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    (Original post by viddy9)
    Slight correction: it's Alexander van der Bellen, not Alexander van deer Belen.

    I want Dr. Van der Bellen to win, of course. A soft-spoken, polite economics professor with good policies vs a far-right extremist with bad policies? Of course I'd pick the former!

    Exit polls, as you say, suggest that the race is very tight. 50.2% for Mr. Hofer and 49.8% for Dr. Van der Bellen. The Presidency is largely a ceremonial role but I'm worried that the far-right could try to change that.

    EDIT: Ah, it's now neck-and-neck.
    "He is softly spoken – “doe-eyed” as one German newspaper described him, and he walks with a stick following a hand-gliding {sic} accident. Oh, and he likes to carry a Glock 9mm pistol with him on the campaign trail. "
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    And I acknowledged that.



    Postal votes never favour the right wing, though
    I hear a man name Adolf Hitler born 1899 is voting Green by postal vote too, as well a little known musician called Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
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    der Bellen 2,254,484 (50.35%)
    Hofer 2,223,458 (49.65%)

    72.7% turnout

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    der Bellen 2,254,484 (50.35%)
    Hofer 2,223,458 (49.65%)

    72.7% turnout

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    A relatively high turnout, shows an interesting split within Austria.
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    The result is too close to give me any real optimism, but it's good to see that the Austrian people made the sensible decision in the end. Professor Van der Bellen will make a good President, I'm sure.
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    (Original post by viddy9)
    The result is too close to give me any real optimism, but it's good to see that the Austrian people made the sensible decision in the end. Professor Van der Bellen will make a good President, I'm sure.
    What do you know of VdB that makes you that optimistic, despite the fact he says he will refuse to swear in a right wing government?
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    What do you know of VdB that makes you that optimistic, despite the fact he says he will refuse to swear in a right wing government?
    I know about the policies that the Green Party in Austria have promoted, I know that Van der Bellen opposes TTIP, and I know from his speeches that he hasn't sneered at people who have concerns about immigration.
 
 
 
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