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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Did you even bother to read the thread?
    You're clearly not interested in any kind of actual debate, you just want to feel morally superior to people that want to leave the EU.

    I echo the first responder to the thread.

    You are an epic thundercunt.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    An anti EU teacher? Do you go to a private school or something?
    I have a teacher who's anti EU! (I'm gonna find the views of the other teachers soon, so there may be more.)

    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Yeah, however he is the only one (i think)

    He is out literally because the MP from where he lives is IN and they have hated each other since they were kids, so he makes up reasons but thats his actual reason for the vote.
    Now that sounds like a speculation.
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    (Original post by Supersaps)
    You're clearly not interested in any kind of actual debate, you just want to feel morally superior to people that want to leave the EU.

    I echo the first responder to the thread.

    You are an epic thundercunt.
    What debate, i responded to your points already as they were the same as a previous posters, so i told you to read the thread for the answers to your pathetic and false reasons.

    Im not trying to feel morally superior you just couldnt be bothered to read the thread.
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Had an argument with one of my teachers earlier about this.

    I asked him to give me a reason as to why anyone should vote to leave the EU; his reply "Social security because of less immigrants"

    Is this seriously all the leave campaign has? Its literally all i hear the same old "less immigrants more jobs"

    I find it amusing as the majority of the people who want out are the usual racist, unemployed and uneducated morons, without an actual clue as to what a leave vote would mean.

    So apart from the usual "immigrants teking our jubs" what else does a leave vote offer?

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    as a non racist, self employed and saving for a £100,000 a year educational program and a series of £25,000 seminars

    i will go with less red tape and taxes
    freedom to change our own laws without having to tell Brussels
    far easier to start a business with non european based trade when out of the EU than in
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    +1 vote for epic thundercunt.
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Wow false facts, let me correct you.

    With regards to point above; Not true. The European Commission doesn’t make laws. It only makes proposals, which are then debated, amended and passed (or rejected) by elected national governments and directly-elected MEPs.

    In any case, Commissioners themselves are accountable to the European Parliament, which elects its president, approves its appointment and can dismiss it by a vote of no confidence

    Further; your last point highlights and echoes my original post.
    No that's not true, let me correct you.

    The European Commission makes laws, the European Parliament (that contains elected members) cannot propose legislation, nor reject it. As I said they can only "advise and consult" the European Commission. That is a fact whether you like it or not. If you think national governments are involved in making laws then you are very mistaken indeed.

    Please go and actually do some research instead of spreading lies and false information.

    However you are right that the president is elected, even though the EU actually has 4 presidents.
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    (Original post by TomTheImp)
    No that's not true, let me correct you.

    The European Commission makes laws, the European Parliament (that contains elected members) cannot propose legislation, nor reject it. As I said they can only "advise and consult" the European Commission. That is a fact whether you like it or not. If you think national governments are involved in making laws then you are very mistaken indeed.

    Please go and actually do some research instead of spreading lies and false information.

    However you are right that the president is elected, even though the EU actually has 4 presidents.
    Firstly you just contradicted yourself.

    Secondly i am correct as the people who are elected are held accountable. When a bill is made in this country it goes through the House of Lords (who are not elected) so what exactly is your point?

    Its the same principle that SOMEONE is accountable and that someone is elected.
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    (Original post by jamesthehustler)
    i will go with less red tape and taxes
    freedom to change our own laws without having to tell Brussels
    far easier to start a business with non european based trade when out of the EU than in
    What red tape and taxes do you refer to?
    And which laws can't we change that we would want to?
    As for foreign trade out of the EU? How would that be easier. It isn't particularly hard now. You just have to pay the necessary duties depending on where you are exporting. Outside the EU, you will still have to pay those duties just as those importing to the UK similarly have to pay import duty depending on what the product is.
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Firstly you just contradicted yourself.

    Secondly i am correct as the people who are elected are held accountable. When a bill is made in this country it goes through the House of Lords (who are not elected) so what exactly is your point?

    Its the same principle that SOMEONE is accountable and that someone is elected.
    Because the House of Lords can only delay legislation for up to a year, and can't even delay financial ones (budgets.) It's just a revision chamber.

    Do your research please.

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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    What red tape and taxes do you refer to?
    And which laws can't we change that we would want to?
    As for foreign trade out of the EU? How would that be easier. It isn't particularly hard now. You just have to pay the necessary duties depending on where you are exporting. Outside the EU, you will still have to pay those duties just as those importing to the UK similarly have to pay import duty depending on what the product is.
    tampon tax is an eu controlled law for a start
    and well that's enough to give you do some research
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Had an argument with one of my teachers earlier about this.

    I asked him to give me a reason as to why anyone should vote to leave the EU; his reply "Social security because of less immigrants"

    Is this seriously all the leave campaign has? Its literally all i hear the same old "less immigrants more jobs"

    I find it amusing as the majority of the people who want out are the usual racist, unemployed and uneducated morons, without an actual clue as to what a leave vote would mean.

    So apart from the usual "immigrants teking our jubs" what else does a leave vote offer?

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    You sound like a closet masochist. You obviously enjoy being told what to do
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    Retain all money spent on EU contributions.
    Access to cheaper world food prices.
    Reduce net immigration to sustainable levels.
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    (Original post by jamesthehustler)
    tampon tax is an eu controlled law for a start
    and well that's enough to give you do some research
    Is this a joke...
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    (Original post by BaronK)
    Retain all money spent on EU contributions.
    Access to cheaper world food prices.
    Reduce net immigration to sustainable levels.
    1) What about the money we make from the EU - Some 4 times the amount we put in
    2) CBA
    3) What about the flexibilty of right now, where you can go work in France, Spain etc, what about the people who own businesses and will be affected and because of this will cut jobs to subsidise the money they will lose?

    Immigration is being used as a scapegoat as the leave campaign has literally **** all else. Look at every reply on this thread

    Then you will start complaining about MORE unemployment...
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    1) What about the money we make from the EU - Some 4 times the amount we put in
    2) CBA
    3) What about the flexibilty of right now, where you can go work in France, Spain etc, what about the people who own businesses and will be affected and because of this will cut jobs to subsidise the money they will lose?

    Then you will start complaining about MORE unemployment...
    1) I'm not sure what you mean. We're a net importer and net contributor. Either way, trade will continue come remain or leave.
    2) Thanks for accepting your defeat here.
    3) You'd most likely have to get a visa to work abroad? That's hardly the be all and all.
    It won't stop immigration, those with desired skills are obviously going to continue to migrate.
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    I did not contradict myself you were spreading lies about the European Commission law making but what you said about the president is correct.
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    Is this a joke...
    nope the
    eu shredded offers when he tried to get it quashed last year after people went on a bloody protest
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    (Original post by jamesthehustler)
    nope the
    eu shredded offers when he tried to get it quashed last year after people went on a bloody protest
    Sure, but is that really the best thing you could come up with or something.

    Honestly i PERSONALLY feel the leave campaign is clutching on straws and finding petty issues to try and build a debate but its just going no where. I dont mean it to sound offensive its just my own personal opinion and sure its probably biased.
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    (Original post by jamesthehustler)
    tampon tax is an eu controlled law for a start
    and well that's enough to give you do some research
    I thought you might mention that. So we need to leave the EU so that women can buy tampons at a slightly reduced rate?

    Is that the best you can do?
 
 
 
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