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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    It promotes intolerance, bigotry, extremism, and undermines the Christian values of the UK. Moderate muslims in small numbers I have no issue with, but how can you tell? It's nigh impossible.

    Until a genuine conservative party comes along (not the left wing Torys masquerading as such) I will continue to vote UKIP.
    OK. I respect your views, I'm female muslim and I'm sorry you feel like that but Islam does not oppress me. Christians and muslims have similar values and in the Qur'an, Christians and Jews are deemed as the people of the book and we do believe in all the prophets that you believe in such as Jesus, Moses, Adam, Abraham etc. When I was in primary school, whether you were Christian or not, we had to go to Church before Easter, Christmas etc so I'm sure Christian values are still there, my sisters that are still in primary school do the same thing.
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    OK. I respect your views, I'm female muslim and I'm sorry you feel like that but Islam does not oppress me. Christians and muslims have similar values and in the Qur'an, Christians and Jews are deemed as the people of the book and we do believe in all the prophets that you believe in such as Jesus, Moses, Adam, Abraham etc. When I was in primary school, whether you were Christian or not, we had to go to Church before Easter, Christmas etc so I'm sure Christian values are still there, my sisters that are still in primary school do the same thing.
    Then you're in the minority, unfortunately. If there were more like you, the right wing would have much less of an issue with Islam.

    Christian values are being diluted now unfortunately. Children nowadays know nothing of Christ, the Church, the Bible, the story of Easter etc. I have spoken to Muslims before and most have been fine people, but the odd few are incredibly rude, intolerant and openly hostile towards Christianity. It's these that myself and the far right don't have any respect for.
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    Then you're in the minority, unfortunately. If there were more like you, the right wing would have much less of an issue with Islam.

    Christian values are being diluted now unfortunately. Children nowadays know nothing of Christ, the Church, the Bible, the story of Easter etc. I have spoken to Muslims before and most have been fine people, but the odd few are incredibly rude, intolerant and openly hostile towards Christianity. It's these that myself and the far right don't have any respect for.
    Tbh those people who are rude I wouldn't appreciate either. In Islam, we are taught to respect others especially those of Abrahamic religions. I'm sorry you had experiences. I can assure you that Christianity is still taught in schools thoroughly but especially muslims would know as our religion is closely related ( we also believe in the coming of Jesus when it is Judgement Day)
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    Have you read the Qur'an?
    Of course, the chronological version was the most telling.

    It is a work of potent intolerance and evil. Its fundamentals are clear and it has created what pseudo-Muslims call "fundamentalists" or "extremists", and what a non-biased reader of the Quran calls an accurate interpretation of the text.
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    You speak as if Islam is the only source of conflict in the world.

    EDIT: Or religion in general
    A major source, not only.

    And not just of conflict, but of stagnation and barrier to progression. There is more to peace and acceptance than no conflict.
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    With racism, religious discrimination and people like BNP gaining popularity, can't we accept each other and live in peace?
    You rather surprisingly forgot to mention LGBT rights, womens' rights, and people like ISIS
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    (Original post by maskofsanity)
    Of course, the chronological version was the most telling.

    It is a work of potent intolerance and evil. Its fundamentals are clear and it has created what pseudo-Muslims call "fundamentalists" or "extremists", and what a non-biased reader of the Quran calls an accurate interpretation of the text.
    There is only one version of the Qur'an. You cannot change it. I feel a lie coming from you.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    You rather surprisingly forgot to mention LGBT rights, womens' rights, and people like ISIS
    Yes, they should be improved. Don't get me started on ISIS.
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    Because humans will always find some way to seperate and discriminate. It's in our nature.
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    It promotes intolerance, bigotry, extremism, and undermines the Christian values of the UK.
    Christianity is all of those things, just to a lesser extent, mostly because it has been reformed much quicker than Islam which is centuries behind and has not experienced its Renaissance. The values of the U.K. are human values not Christian. We allow abortion, we support homosexuals, we encourage sexuality, we prioritise science and the scientific method, we have a secular legal system, and a morality of reason not dogma.
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    People are scared to have nothing to stand against in the face of others.
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    Then you're in the minority, unfortunately. If there were more like you, the right wing would have much less of an issue with Islam.

    Christian values are being diluted now unfortunately. Children nowadays know nothing of Christ, the Church, the Bible, the story of Easter etc. I have spoken to Muslims before and most have been fine people, but the odd few are incredibly rude, intolerant and openly hostile towards Christianity. It's these that myself and the far right don't have any respect for.
    thats really sad! honestly muslims need to understand that even in the 7th century there were different religions and Muhammad did not treat them like dirt.

    Its really sad when you see a muslims hating on another religion, like no, they are accepting us, we must accept them.
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    There is only one version of the Qur'an. You cannot change it. I feel a lie coming from you.
    One version which can be read in different ways, e.g. chronologically. I feel a bias coming from you.
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    (Original post by student.feed)
    Yes, they should be improved. Don't get me started on ISIS.
    so me everytime people go "muslims are terrorists" "daesh did this" like no punk, they dont represent the majority
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    (Original post by Kieran1996)
    Because humans will always find some way to seperate and discriminate. It's in our nature.
    Best way of never achieving something: accept that it can't be done.

    Anyway, humans deny our most basic urges all the time, we use reason and logic to open more opportunities to us as individuals and as a collective, why should we continue to hold ourselves hostage to something that is making our lives worse?
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    (Original post by sfaraj)
    so me everytime people go "muslims are terrorists" "daesh did this" like no punk, they dont represent the majority
    True, as a muslim I have heard all muslims are terrorists
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    Not everyone/thing deserves to be accepted. You latently believe this yourself if you take issue with racists and those who discriminate on religious grounds.
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    Just because some people are violent in a religion doesn't mean all of them are. The KKK were devout Christians, does that mean every Christian is racist? No, It promotes nothing of the sort, you can carry on, reading the Daily Mail and supporting Nigel Farage and polluting your mind with those ideas. The reason we can't all live peacefully is people like you.
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    (Original post by sfaraj)
    so me everytime people go "muslims are terrorists" "daesh did this" like no punk, they dont represent the majority
    That's because many muslims are only culturally muslim and do not follow or understand the koran beyond what they were told to do growing up.

    Of course a minority of muslims are terrorists - however this number is much larger when you include all those who directly support them (e.g. recruiters and funders) and much larger still when you include those who agree with their views but take no terrorist action themselves.

    Not to mention that the majority of arrested terrorists are religious. And, in turn, the majority of those are muslim.
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    (Original post by maskofsanity)
    That's because many muslims are only culturally muslim and do not follow or understand the koran beyond what they were told to do growing up.

    Of course a minority of muslims are terrorists - however this number is much larger when you include all those who directly support them (e.g. recruiters and funders) and much larger still when you include those who agree with their views but take no terrorist action themselves.

    Not to mention that the majority of arrested terrorists are religious. And, in turn, the majority of those are muslim.
    Yeah , but I guess hate speech against islam wont abolish the religion will it?
 
 
 
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