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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    but the BNP aren't even right wing - you said "extreme right" = fascism, right?
    If they're not extreme right what are they then?
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    If they're not extreme right what are they then?
    ultra-nationalist centrists
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    you said that I was "triggered" by you, and that I needed "a safe space" - you're from the left yet you're using ridiculed concepts that originate from your camp against me?
    Depends on what you identify as left wing. I support a mixed Economy but im certainly not a fan of Corbyn.

    The 'trigger' and 'safe room' remarks were ironic- although I do find it amusing how PC the right wingers get about certain subjects, eg the Queen or how offended brexiters get when Mark Carney says there will be risks with Brexiters etc
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    ultra-nationalist centrists

    I actually agree with you on this.


    But, libertarians such as Those of the Austrian School have actively dabbled with fascism and dictatorship eg Colonel Pinochet and other unpleasant despots. Despite being a libertarian, Von Mises advocated fascism as a good response to democratic socialism (as did various U.S. Administrations during the Cold War)
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Depends on what you identify as left wing. I support a mixed Economy but im certainly not a fan of Corbyn.

    The 'trigger' and 'safe room' remarks were ironic- although I do find it amusing how PC the right wingers get about certain subjects, eg the Queen or how offended brexiters get when Mark Carney says there will be risks with Brexiters etc
    political correctness isn't right wing though - it's de facto left wing because it's not about individual liberty. so you're using an example of basically left wing~ right wingers. also, the queen is a symbol of the status quo - that's just like the EU, isn't it? how is the EU not a status quo institution like the monarchy? I support neither. and nobody really gets "offended" by project fear, they just get frustrated by how persistent it is
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    political correctness isn't right wing though - it's de facto left wing because it's not about individual liberty.
    So, Jacob Rees Mogg, who thinks people that insult the queen should be locked up is left wing?

    also, the queen is a symbol of the status quo - that's just like the EU, isn't it? how is the EU not a status quo institution like the monarchy? I support neither.
    The difference is the EU is not a static construct and was/ will be democratically decided upon.




    nobody really gets "offended" by project fear, they just get frustrated by how persistent it is
    How do you really get offended?
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    Excellent post OP, we have to talk to Brexiters on their ravingly unhinged level.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    So, Jacob Rees Mogg, who thinks people that insult the queen should be locked up is left wing?
    he is in that very specific context, when "left wing" means "not promoting individual liberty". what a authoritarian thing for such a man to think.

    The difference is the EU is not a static construct and was/ will be democratically decided upon.
    how meaningful

    How do you really get offended?
    I don't
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    he is in that very specific context, when "left wing" means "not promoting individual liberty". what a authoritarian thing for such a man to think.
    I think there are a number of exceptions to your rule which make it obsolote. Certainly a number of right winger want to restrict freedom of speech and a number of left wing want to extend it.


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    how meaningful[/]

    More meaningful to me than having the liberty to die in poverty.


    I don't
    I think there are always some restrictions on speech.

    I dont for instance think Islamists should be able to speak in campuses, and I imagine that sentiment is pretty strong for a lot of people on your right wing camp (and indeed mine).
 
 
 
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