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    (Original post by Rather_Cynical)
    From my understanding, it doesn't have to be "extreme" - just consistent. If you decide that the axioms "God is real" and "God will punish associations with certain kinds of evil, such as homosexuality" are ones to be accepted, then it would logically follow that having gay or lesbian friends will lead to eternal hellfire.

    It just happens to be highly twisted and not acceptable in modern society, so religious leaders may choose to interpret less aggressive verses and lead more towards the wishes/desires of the individual not being homosexual being "enough" to appease God.
    What I meant is that the bolded view is fairly extreme, as as far as I'm aware most people who hold the homophobic views think God will punish people who commit the acts, not ones who are friends with those that do.
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    (Original post by Toughtee)
    as far as I'm aware most people who hold the homophobic views think God will punish people who commit the acts, not ones who are friends with those that do.
    Do they happen to be raised or live in an economically stable country like the UK? It might be a more moderate position on it.

    EDIT - so it may be deemed less extreme and more acceptable in muslim-majority countries.
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    I prefer the Sufi version of defining spirituality in terms of being aware of and trying to be 'spiritually' closer to God. Overall, I believe these spiritual feelings, the way it differentiates us from non-matter, we all experience is a sign of God's existence.
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    (Original post by Rather_Cynical)
    Do they happen to be raised or live in an economically stable country like the UK? It might be a more moderate position on it.

    EDIT - so it may be deemed less extreme and more acceptable in muslim-majority countries.
    I feel like this is going off-topic but the Muslim-majority countries which have laws that do involve homosexuality (some don't) are only only concerned about actions taken about it. So if you're openly gay but don't commit sodomy, you're safe.
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    (Original post by khana123)
    Hi

    I wanted to ask about religious identity. I believe questioning is essential to a growth mentality. I think that religion in essence is simply much like anything else in life. Its a belonging to an ideal. To community. That sense of belonging is an inherent part of human nature. This, plus as human beings, we are all creatures of habit. Routine. So it's similar in that regard to working 9-5 in a job you love as a member of a team. Its just done in a different way. In the regard of 'faith' and 'religion'. So for example...spirituality imo may not be real. Spiritual awakening, mystical healing is just a function of our innate desire to be noticed (it links in to our human emotion) and to function as part of a deeper and more meaningful, contributing process. I say this from an engineering students perspective. I believe entirely in logic.

    I was born and raised a muslim. Had gone to a religious faith school from the age of 12 years old. All my life, I've been orientated in that direction through family (going to the mosque weekly, etc). They're deeply religious minded and I'm keen to learn more about other faiths (hence a growing friction in the house- they pay the bills. I'm unemployed.) I recognise it's a very bias, one sided view having the basic view that islam is the best religion in the world. Mundane in its entirety. So I'd be keen to welcome suggestions, differing viewpoints and perspectives on the topic of what is faith? What is spirituality? Is it simply logic(the human nature argument). Are we just humanity touting the ideals of a stubborn minded teenager. Looking towards something so far detached from reality (ie god), that it must be real?
    Look at this it may inn shaa allah help:

    https://youtu.be/ZwUa-czeBj4

    https://youtu.be/v7fk2DA9grM

    https://youtu.be/vH-hAa_IEug

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