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    Hey all,

    This is kinda gonna be a little rant so if you read it please ignore my bad spelling and grammar etc if there is any.

    Basically, I'm annoyed at our generation, there are so many things that happen and go on that simply frustrate me. I'll give some examples.

    All the safe spaces and trigger warnings at universities - get a grip, if you don't like people with different ideas to you, you really shouldn't be at uni.

    Liberals. I don't like the left wing ideologies, and although I accept people opinions, I sometimes feel like people don't accept mine. If ever We are having a discussion at school for example, I find that if ever someone, including myself, says something they don't agree with, they just shout you down and talk over you...it's pathetic.

    Bias in school- teachers are mostly all left wing, and they always try to influence us at school.

    American kids on YouTube comments. Anyone that's been on YouTube will know the struggle.

    The word "phobia". I'm not againts gays, I'm not againts Muslims, etc etc. But if ever I say something against someone, not even because of this thing, you get branded as them. Sorry if that's a bit confusing, basically I sad I don't agree with sharia law and I genuinely think it should be banned, as its prejudiced and cruel, but when I said this I was called islamophobic. There is a big problem with this kind of thing, another thing I did was argue with a feminist (big mistake) I told them that they should focus on women that actuall are oppressed like in the Middle East, and stop complaining about "the gender wage gap" (which although there is a gap, this is not discriminative, it's to do with life choices, you can look it up. And how women sit compared to men on games.

    Furthermore, I don't agree with transgender people. I don't think it's real, imo, there are two genders, not like 45. If someone wants to believe in something that isn't real imo, I'm fine with that, but they should also understand that some people disagree, and that shouldn't be against rules, and shouldn't eget uou in trouble. Obviously I don't go up to them and have a go, it's just if they ask to call me "them" etc I won't. (Probably gonna get a lot of angry hate for saying that).

    I also don't like how cruel kids are. Luckily I haven't been on the receiving end of this, I've just seen it happen, but some kids are just so cruel yo others, and I don't get it - people say stuff like "kill yourself". I just don't get it, I wish we could just go back to 1920 lol.
    Fair enough, most of that is just your opinion. However, claiming transgenderism doesn't exist is flying in the face of the general scientific consensus. It exists whether you believe it to or not.

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    (Original post by Elivercury)
    Yeah sorry, you are totally wrong about transgender not being a thing. I disagree with trying to make gender into a rainbow spectrum of 50 different varieties, and trying to create unique names/pronouns for each one, but there has always been people who are not gender binary. It has nothing to do with them not being masculine or feminine enough, that's just ignorant.

    Your view of the left is also pretty patronising given you were complaining that no one takes your views of the right seriously.
    Yes there have, but doesn't mean we should have to see it as normal and standard
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    Fair enough, most of that is just your opinion. However, claiming transgenderism doesn't exist is flying in the face of the general scientific consensus. It exists whether you believe it to or not.

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    I mean the new ones aren't real, like gender Demi neutral fluid or whatever.
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    I mean the new ones aren't real, like gender Demi neutral fluid or whatever.
    Hmm, some make zero sense but a lot of gender labels are just over-categorisation of a real mind/body binary so that their claimants can feel special
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    I agree, I hate this generation too but we're only products of the ones before us.
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    Yes there have, but doesn't mean we should have to see it as normal and standard
    Why not? Perhaps we should dedicate an island to them and ship all trans we find there to live a life of isolation so they don't taint us? Like lepers but with different sex bits.

    Acceptance of trans people isn't about to turn you trans, don't worry.
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    Furthermore, I don't agree with transgender people. I don't think it's real, imo, there are two genders, not like 45. If someone wants to believe in something that isn't real imo, I'm fine with that, but they should also understand that some people disagree, and that shouldn't be against rules, and shouldn't eget uou in trouble. Obviously I don't go up to them and have a go, it's just if they ask to call me "them" etc I won't. (Probably gonna get a lot of angry hate for saying that).
    How can you "not agree"? How do you somehow know better than all the psychologists in the world? Don't get upset when people tell you you're wrong because you're wrong. It should happen more often.
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    I don't mind the people, I just don't like the other stuff.

    Being trans DOES NOT define who someone is, I'm nit a against the people as they aren't just "trans people" they are all different types of people. I don't like the way which I'm told at school that if I dint believe in something which is subjective, I will get in huge trouble,

    For example, there is a kid that reckons he is like a demisonethingsomething and if I was asked "do you think he really is" and I said no, I would get detention. I don't have to conform to accepting a physcological condition as good, I think we should offer support to them as they clearly aren't happy with how they are.
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    (Original post by RobML)
    Hmm, some make zero sense but a lot of gender labels are just over-categorisation of a real mind/body binary so that their claimants can feel special
    Ain't that the truth.

    Also, I swear 75% of 18-22 year olds suddenly decide they are "bisexual" and use it as a personality replacement. Granted I haven't in that age bracket for a while, so this may have changed.
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    That's true. Most people aren't. It's like that statistic about 1% of all Americans being trains...like come off it.


    Also, can people discuss the other points I made? Don't want to make it all about trans people
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    That's true. Most people aren't. It's like that statistic about 1% of all Americans being trains...like come off it.


    Also, can people discuss the other points I made? Don't want to make it all about trans people
    Yup, I'm confused how there being 1% of people makes it subjective. Something like 3% of the UK population is black. Do you not believe black people exist?

    Just because something isn't the majority doesn't mean it isn't normal.

    People are focusing on this particular point because it is the most outlandish. There isn't much point discussing the others if they agree with them etc.
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    Yup, I'm confused how there being 1% of people makes it subjective. Something like 3% of the UK population is black. Do you not believe black people exist?

    Just because something isn't the majority doesn't mean it isn't normal.

    People are focusing on this particular point because it is the most outlandish. There isn't much point discussing the others if they agree with them etc.
    No, I said the teachings at school were subjective.

    The thing inamerica, no way are 1 in 100 people trans. They may say they are, but there can't be that many, it's just a fad.
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    That's true. Most people aren't. It's like that statistic about 1% of all Americans being trains...like come off it.


    Also, can people discuss the other points I made? Don't want to make it all about trans people
    700,000 people in the United States, or about 0.2 to 0.3 percent of the population, are transgender, though some experts say the true number is probably greater than that.
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    No, I said the teachings at school were subjective.

    The thing inamerica, no way are 1 in 100 people trans. They may say they are, but there can't be that many, it's just a fad.
    Why not? Do you have any basis for why this can't be? Because you know 100 people and not one of them that you know is trans?
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    There is a big problem with this kind of thing, another thing I did was argue with a feminist (big mistake) I told them that they should focus on women that actuall are oppressed like in the Middle East, and stop complaining about "the gender wage gap" (which although there is a gap, this is not discriminative, it's to do with life choices, you can look it up. And how women sit compared to men on games.
    Okay I'm going to point something out here because apparently people don't understand what the wage gap ACTUALLY is. It is not that women on average get paid less than men, they do, that is partly to do with life choices and the glass ceiling and women not receiving promotions, CEO jobs etc. its that women get paid less for doing the exact same job than men do. Say you had two teachers, a man and a woman, both taught english and no other subjects, both joined the school at the same time and both teachers got similar attainment from their classes, the woman would get paid less than the man, thats the issue, feminists aren't complaining that women get paid less than men on average, we know, there's nothing we can really do about that, but we can make sure women and men get paid the same for doing the same job.
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    [QUOTE=Elivercury;65837361]We probably do. I'd also be willing to bet that our standings probably reflect our earnings also...[QUOTE]

    Ooft! As much as I understand the sentiment, I think we'd both be insulting each other to imply that we are unable to separate our politics and thoughts on fundamental issues of humanity from how much we take home every month!

    Actually, I'm not even sure if you're suggesting I live comfortably and so don't worry about things like extra taxation, or that I don't earn an obscene amount and so don't have strong feelings against things like higher tax for high earners?
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    [QUOTE=offhegoes;65842509][QUOTE=Elivercury;65837361]We probably do. I'd also be willing to bet that our standings probably reflect our earnings also...

    Ooft! As much as I understand the sentiment, I think we'd both be insulting each other to imply that we are unable to separate our politics and thoughts on fundamental issues of humanity from how much we take home every month!

    Actually, I'm not even sure if you're suggesting I live comfortably and so don't worry about things like extra taxation, or that I don't earn an obscene amount and so don't have strong feelings against things like higher tax for high earners?
    I would be surprised if you didn't feel they were connected. Perhaps you're a better person than me, but I have no intention of supporting policies that would pauper me and outside of champagne socialists, I imagine most other people wouldn't either.

    Although I fully accept that I may have over-exaggerated matters with the wage comment. There is plenty of scope to achieve fair social policy without bankrupting ourselves and I would agree that some personal sacrifices are fine for the "greater good" (whatever that is).
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    Hey all,

    This is kinda gonna be a little rant so if you read it please ignore my bad spelling and grammar etc if there is any.

    Basically, I'm annoyed at our generation, there are so many things that happen and go on that simply frustrate me. I'll give some examples.

    All the safe spaces and trigger warnings at universities - get a grip, if you don't like people with different ideas to you, you really shouldn't be at uni.

    Liberals. I don't like the left wing ideologies, and although I accept people opinions, I sometimes feel like people don't accept mine. If ever We are having a discussion at school for example, I find that if ever someone, including myself, says something they don't agree with, they just shout you down and talk over you...it's pathetic.

    Bias in school- teachers are mostly all left wing, and they always try to influence us at school.

    American kids on YouTube comments. Anyone that's been on YouTube will know the struggle.

    The word "phobia". I'm not againts gays, I'm not againts Muslims, etc etc. But if ever I say something against someone, not even because of this thing, you get branded as them. Sorry if that's a bit confusing, basically I sad I don't agree with sharia law and I genuinely think it should be banned, as its prejudiced and cruel, but when I said this I was called islamophobic. There is a big problem with this kind of thing, another thing I did was argue with a feminist (big mistake) I told them that they should focus on women that actuall are oppressed like in the Middle East, and stop complaining about "the gender wage gap" (which although there is a gap, this is not discriminative, it's to do with life choices, you can look it up. And how women sit compared to men on games.

    Furthermore, I don't agree with transgender people. I don't think it's real, imo, there are two genders, not like 45. If someone wants to believe in something that isn't real imo, I'm fine with that, but they should also understand that some people disagree, and that shouldn't be against rules, and shouldn't eget uou in trouble. Obviously I don't go up to them and have a go, it's just if they ask to call me "them" etc I won't. (Probably gonna get a lot of angry hate for saying that).

    I also don't like how cruel kids are. Luckily I haven't been on the receiving end of this, I've just seen it happen, but some kids are just so cruel yo others, and I don't get it - people say stuff like "kill yourself". I just don't get it, I wish we could just go back to 1920 lol.
    lol if you get upset about this kind of stuff how are you going to deal with life?
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    You don't agree with transgender people? And you wonder why people "shout you down and talk over you"?
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    (Original post by FNPC)
    No, I said the teachings at school were subjective.

    The thing inamerica, no way are 1 in 100 people trans. They may say they are, but there can't be that many, it's just a fad.
    Do you disagree with homosexuality as well, by any chance?
 
 
 
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