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B1003 – Political Parties Funding Bill 2016 Watch

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    If it were legal for big businesses to take money out of wages to fund the Tories without explicit consent I'm sure you would all be at tje front of the queue to make it opt in. Do you believe that one should have money donated without their explicit consent?

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    Terrible analogy. Unions are given money, they don't take it. They then use that money for activities the end goal of which is to improve the lot of working people. Some of them use that money to help elect candidates standing on behalf of the party founded by the unions.
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    Aye.


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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    If it were legal for big businesses to take money out of wages to fund the Tories without explicit consent I'm sure you would all be at tje front of the queue to make it opt in. Do you believe that one should have money donated without their explicit consent?

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    They join a political organisation, a trade union, an organisation which most likely, depending on which union they are joining, has ties with a political party, the Labour Party, going back decades if not for a century. Simply by joining a trade union you know you are joining an organisation which donates to the Labour Party, that is explicit consent.
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    If this were about public funding for all parties then I'd listen. But this is just part of the author's disturbing ideology that politics is for rich individuals.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    If this were about public funding for all parties then I'd listen. But this is just part of the author's disturbing ideology that politics is for rich individuals.
    Is it putting a minimum donation in?

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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    They join a political organisation, a trade union, an organisation which most likely, depending on which union they are joining, has ties with a political party, the Labour Party, going back decades if not for a century. Simply by joining a trade union you know you are joining an organisation which donates to the Labour Party, that is explicit consent.
    Except that is trivially false, only if it's an affiliated union, and I doubt many could tell you whether they're in an affiliated union or not.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is it putting a minimum donation in?

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    It doesn't need to for my statement to stand. Though I wouldn't put it past the author.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    It doesn't need to for my statement to stand. Though I wouldn't put it past the author.
    Does it stop the poor being involved? No.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Does it stop the poor being involved? No.

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    It helps wealth to dictate influence. You're not so dim that you can appreciate that, even if you don't believe it is a problem.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    It helps wealth to dictate influence. You're not so dim that you can appreciate that, even if you don't believe it is a problem.
    Remind me which party was boasting last year about raising more money per week than their main opposition, almost all from small donations.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Remind me which party was boasting last year about raising more money per week than their main opposition, almost all from small donations.

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    That's irrelevant.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Except that is trivially false, only if it's an affiliated union, and I doubt many could tell you whether they're in an affiliated union or not.

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    It is easy to tell if the union is affiliated or not, not like that information is buried and hard to obtain. Infact most unions tend to be proud of if they are or are not affiliated.
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    Nay. I would consider a flat spending cap for all parties, but removing sources of funding from one party is wrong.
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