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    (Original post by YellowWallpaper)
    What are these contingencies. I doubt they can actually do much to make up for the chaos caused by the plumetting of the pound sterling.
    The Bank of England opened up a £250 billion line of credit to inject into the economy if necessary to keep a lid on the chaos it caused, bearing in mind this is approximately 25 years worth of EU budget payments it really puts things into perspective.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKCN0ZA16C
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    (Original post by Samiz)
    Of course we will leave, the Prime Minster has accepted the democratic will of the people.

    I'm quite scared at the number of high status, influential celebrities and figures on social media encouraging primarily young people of Britain to disregard and reject democracy. What a precedent to set. I suggest they, and all their salty remain fans, move to North Korea with their anti-democratic fascist viewpoints. As for that MP, I am astonished and he needs to resign.

    And to the remain voters that have the dignity to understand how democracy works -thank you.
    The referendum wasn't exactly a paradigm of democracy. The leave campaign won by deliberately misleading voters. On the daily mail comment section, brexiters have now realised that the government will most probably seek to stay in the single market, which means that free movement of people is here to stay. They are claiming that this is not democracy and I agree with them. It's not just remain voters who are unhappy with the outcome.
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    "remainers" make me laugh they lobby for liberty and freedom but then they're sour about a wholly fair, wholly democratic outcome of a referendum. Hope it doesn't tarnish/overshadow the election of a new PM.
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    We probably will leave, but as many have said, I don't think those who campaigned for Leave genuinely thought we'd end up leaving. In my honest opinion, Boris and Gove wanted to oppose David Cameron, bide their time, then say that not enough had been done, and they wanted to take control and move their way up the Tory party ladder. Boris wanted PM. They were in it for their own internal Tory politics, this was never about the people. That much is clear by the fact they've both been in hiding all weekend. If you were genuinely thrilled about the result (like Farage), you'd be doing interviews the entire weekend.

    They don't have a plan, they don't have a clue.

    But hey, as far as I'm concerned, their political careers are over. None of them have the balls to replace Cameron and invoke Article 50, because even if we can make us leaving the EU work, the rewards won't happen in the short term. Whoever takes on PM has to accept that they'll probably be one of the most hated Tory PMs in history. Those two are cowards, all I've heard from them is there's no "rush" to invoke Article 50, and they want to hold "informal" talks with the EU over the summer. Why the delay? If we're going to face a tough economic time because of these buffoons, we need people holding serious trade talks right now.

    So over this BS.
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    I'm skeptical that it will happen, and if it does happen it will only be halfheartedly.
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    (Original post by Shumaya)
    The referendum wasn't exactly a paradigm of democracy.
    A little off-topic, but... this sentence doesn't make any sense as written.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...glish/paradigm

    A plebiscite is definitely a democratic paradigm. Because it is "a typical example or pattern" of democracy. In fact, it's probably one of the purest and oldest forms. Many people over time have said that Republics are better than pure Democracy because the pure form leads to mob rule. You might agree with those people, but you can't claim that a referendum or plebiscite isn't a paradigm of democracy.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    I am becoming increasingly sceptical that we will actually leave the eu partly after reading this article thoughts? Also if you look at what Borish Johnson actually said ‘I will be advocating vote “leave”... because I want a better deal for the people of this country to save them money and to take back control.’ Nowhere does he say he wants us to leave.


    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co....er-do-so-.html
    It really depends because at the moment parliament is trying to block it.

    Labour MPs are trying to get Corbyn out so they can put forward a block on the EU REF result.
    Conservatives may try and do the same with their new leader. I can't see Boris getting elected.

    If a general election is called then people will have to vote UKIP if they want to get out. There is no point spreading votes thinly else we will lose. It will have to be UKIP and nothing else but UKIP .

    ............. This is coming from a Liberation Socialist who doesn't agree with the majority of things UKIP stands for btw.

    If we end up rejoining the EU then we need to shout from the roof tops that the British Government is ignoring the will of the people during the referendum. This will show how undemocratic and elitist Britain has became.

    Eventually the EU will crumble under its own weight as member states have referendums and elitist Governments ignore the will of their citizens.

    People will realise that to get out of the EU they will have to either vote for the anti-EU party or get into their capital and bring their country to a stand still.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    The Bank of England opened up a £250 billion line of credit to inject into the economy if necessary to keep a lid on the chaos it caused, bearing in mind this is approximately 25 years worth of EU budget payments it really puts things into perspective.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKCN0ZA16C
    If used and it always has to be paid back....


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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    The Bank of England opened up a £250 billion line of credit to inject into the economy if necessary to keep a lid on the chaos it caused, bearing in mind this is approximately 25 years worth of EU budget payments it really puts things into perspective.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKCN0ZA16C
    That is because Remain camp Mark Carney is a Keynesian idiot who likes to money print. He isn't a Capitalist. A true Capitalist would let those corporations loose their value.

    Carney is a Crony Capitalist.

    Its not the first time he has done this. He has done another 375 billion QE before after the 2007 recession.
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    Nah bro - its just a prank
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    (Original post by Samiz)
    I'm quite scared at the number of high status, influential celebrities and figures on social media encouraging primarily young people of Britain to disregard and reject democracy. What a precedent to set. I suggest they, and all their salty remain fans, move to North Korea with their anti-democratic fascist viewpoints. As for that MP, I am astonished and he needs to resign.
    Who have we had so far? I know J K Rowling and Ricky Gervais have expressed their dismay but it would be interesting to see who has actually encouraged people to reject democracy.
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    (Original post by snailsareslimy)
    We probably will leave, but as many have said, I don't think those who campaigned for Leave genuinely thought we'd end up leaving. In my honest opinion, Boris and Gove wanted to oppose David Cameron, bide their time, then say that not enough had been done, and they wanted to take control and move their way up the Tory party ladder. Boris wanted PM. They were in it for their own internal Tory politics, this was never about the people. That much is clear by the fact they've both been in hiding all weekend. If you were genuinely thrilled about the result (like Farage), you'd be doing interviews the entire weekend.

    They don't have a plan, they don't have a clue.

    But hey, as far as I'm concerned, their political careers are over. None of them have the balls to replace Cameron and invoke Article 50, because even if we can make us leaving the EU work, the rewards won't happen in the short term. Whoever takes on PM has to accept that they'll probably be one of the most hated Tory PMs in history. Those two are cowards, all I've heard from them is there's no "rush" to invoke Article 50, and they want to hold "informal" talks with the EU over the summer. Why the delay? If we're going to face a tough economic time because of these buffoons, we need people holding serious trade talks right now.

    So over this BS.
    Boris: The EU is destroying our sovereignty! Vote for Brexit and we'll act decisively to take back our country!

    (Brexit passes)

    EU: Okay, you can leave, go ahead invoke article 50.

    Boris: Oh...um...wait a minute...uh...let's not be hasty...huh-huh...
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    (Original post by blah3210)
    Boris: The EU is destroying our sovereignty! Vote for Brexit and we'll act decisively to take back our country!

    (Brexit passes)

    EU: Okay, you can leave, go ahead invoke article 50.

    Boris: Oh...um...wait a minute...uh...let's not be hasty...huh-huh...
    Lmao, literally that. Can't wait for tomorrow. Well, that is if Boris leaves his house. Maybe a few more days (weeks, maybe months?) in hiding won't do any harm...
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    (Original post by snailsareslimy)
    Lmao, literally that. Can't wait for tomorrow. Well, that is if Boris leaves his house. Maybe a few more days (weeks, maybe months?) in hiding won't do any harm...
    If I was a Londoner I'd be campaigning to have him expelled from the city permanently.
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    (Original post by Samiz)
    I'm quite scared at the number of high status, influential celebrities and figures on social media encouraging primarily young people of Britain to disregard and reject democracy. What a precedent to set. I suggest they, and all their salty remain fans, move to North Korea with their anti-democratic fascist viewpoints. As for that MP, I am astonished and he needs to resign.

    And to the remain voters that have the dignity to understand how democracy works -thank you.
    Thinking referendums are a bad idea does not make you a fascist. When it comes to deciding on a flag, or something else relatively meaningless, referendums are fine. If it's one of the biggest financial decisions the country will take in this century, it's better left to Parliament. I honestly don't see what's virtuous about taking a huge leap in the dark based on the whim of people's uninformed opinions.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    why not we are a huge contributor to the EU they may do a deal with us kind of annoys me but I can see through their lies
    Quite simply - if we end up with a better deal, everyone will want one. You don't give a lolly to the kid that throws his rattle out of the pram. Joining the single market is not a better deal. We complain about any aspects of the single market but at least last week we had a say in its implementation. Now we are at the mercy of whatever the EU dictates to us. So if they decided to ban fishing in the North and Irish seas, we could do nothing about it but protest from the side lines.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    I am becoming increasingly sceptical that we will actually leave the eu partly after reading this article thoughts? Also if you look at what Borish Johnson actually said ‘I will be advocating vote “leave”... because I want a better deal for the people of this country to save them money and to take back control.’ Nowhere does he say he wants us to leave.


    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co....er-do-so-.html
    It's already happened.. They are discussing if they should have a second vote, but the rest of the EU already want us gone, no going back now! :bl:
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    Update: Boris is out of hiding!

    Continuing to distance himself from immigration and the racist tirade the Leave campaign began and said "absolutely" when asked if we were going to have free access to the single market and the free movement of people... Why did we leave the EU, then? Because that's awfully what the EU sounds like.

    He also stated that european citizens living in this country would "absolutely" have their rights protected, the same for British citizens living in other EU countries. Again, is that not what the EU was?

    All he said was he wanted a "fairer" system, but we won't get that system if we want access to the European market for trade, so did we really just vote to leave the EU when the politicians headlining the campaign are putting together the exact same system we had a few days ago? Really...
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    It's also clear from Osborne's address earlier today that he's trying to carry out damage control, and by delaying invoking Article 50, they're perhaps trying to stop it from going ahead. He did dodge questions on whether he was going to resign, so that may also be on the cards over the next few weeks or months. Who knows.
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    (Original post by snailsareslimy)
    Update: Boris is out of hiding!

    Continuing to distance himself from immigration and the racist tirade the Leave campaign began and said "absolutely" when asked if we were going to have free access to the single market and the free movement of people... Why did we leave the EU, then? Because that's awfully what the EU sounds like.

    He also stated that european citizens living in this country would "absolutely" have their rights protected, the same for British citizens living in other EU countries. Again, is that not what the EU was?

    All he said was he wanted a "fairer" system, but we won't get that system if we want access to the European market for trade, so did we really just vote to leave the EU when the politicians headlining the campaign are putting together the exact same system we had a few days ago? Really...
    In other words he was after the PM's job and the issues he campaigned on we're meaningless.
 
 
 
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