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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    What if a magical, pink rabbit initiates an apocalypse though? There are an infinite number of scenarios which one could say "what if it does happen though?". Until there is evidence then there is no reason to believe any of them.
    The Bible has more archaeological credibility than any story about a magical, pink rabbit :laugh:

    I expect better debate from you than rehashed atheist mockery, Plantagenet
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    What if a magical, pink rabbit initiates an apocalypse though? There are an infinite number of scenarios which one could say "what if it does happen though?". Until there is evidence then there is no reason to believe any of them.
    ask for a sign from the lord
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    Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children."
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    The Bible has more archaeological credibility than any story about a magical, pink rabbit :laugh:

    I expect better debate from you than rehashed atheist mockery, Plantagenet
    The Bible cannot be used as evidence for its own veracity, that reasoning is circular and thus void. Point is, there is no evidence whatsoever for a supernatural or divine pocalypse, Biblical or otherwise, making it just as likely (or unlikely) for it to be initiated by a magical rabbit.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    The Bible cannot be used as evidence for its own veracity, that reasoning is circular and thus void. Point is, there is no evidence whatsoever for a supernatural or divine pocalypse, Biblical or otherwise, making it just as likely (or unlikely) for it to be initiated by a magical rabbit.
    :laugh:

    The evidence is external from the Bible, the Bible is only a record of what has happened and what will happen, but archaeological finds have proven what the Bible says to be true. There is extra-biblical evidence for Jesus himself, for example. Most historical scholars consider what the NT says to be reliable. There has been evidence found for what happened in the Book of Exodus, where the Egyptians pursued the Hebrews across the red sea, for example.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    The Bible has more archaeological credibility than any story about a magical, pink rabbit :laugh:

    I expect better debate from you than rehashed atheist mockery, Plantagenet
    All humans are like grass, they last no longer than flowers. With whom does God consult in order to know how things should be done? Can anyone tell the Lord what to do? No one can understand the thoughts of the Lord, who determines the course of history. Behold all nations are emptiness as nothing, accounted as the dust on the scales. To whom then will you liken the lord?
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    :laugh:

    The evidence is external from the Bible, the Bible is only a record of what has happened and what will happen, but archaeological finds have proven what the Bible says to be true. There is extra-biblical evidence for Jesus himself, for example. Most historical scholars consider what the NT says to be reliable. There has been evidence found for what happened in the Book of Exodus, where the Egyptians pursued the Hebrews across the red sea, for example.
    Lmao there is no evidence for the parting of the sea and your larger point is fallacious. Just because the Bible may contain some accurate historical events, doesn't mean everything in it is accurate.

    Where is the external evidence that a divine apocalypse will occur?
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    The Bible cannot be used as evidence for its own veracity, that reasoning is circular and thus void. Point is, there is no evidence whatsoever for a supernatural or divine pocalypse, Biblical or otherwise, making it just as likely (or unlikely) for it to be initiated by a magical rabbit.
    worshipers of 'idols' are blind stupid and foolish who will end up sadly disappointed, they dont have enough sense. turn back instead to Jesus and be saved. he is your lord, the source of your life, only he is the lord, there is no other gods. he does the right thing and speaks the truth. now he will keep his promise and do what he planned? he will soon come to save jerusalem, he is not far away and will waste no time. the lord is marching out like anangry soldier.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Lmao there is no evidence for the parting of the sea and your larger point is fallacious. Just because the Bible may contain some accurate historical events, doesn't mean everything in it is accurate.

    Where is the external evidence that a divine apocalypse will occur?
    woe to the man who argue with his creator. he made the earth and commanded the vast myriads of stars. he has not kept his purpose hidden but speaks the truth, every knee in all the world shall bow to him, and every tongue shall swear allegiance to his name? stubborn men listen, the lord is offering you his deliverance, not in the distant future but right now he is ready to save you.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Lmao there is no evidence for the parting of the sea and your larger point is fallacious. Just because the Bible may contain some accurate historical events, doesn't mean everything in it is accurate.

    Where is the external evidence that a divine apocalypse will occur?
    I'm sorry, but you are wrong, there have been golden chariot wheels and both human and horse bones (especially femurs) which have been found in the vicinity of the area where it was expected to have taken place. They have also been verified by carbon dating by respected universities to be too old to have been placed there by any over-enthusiatic christians aswell

    http://wyattmuseum.com/discovering/red-sea-crossing

    It's true that there is no direct external evidence that the apocalypse will take place, but the Bible is considered very reliable even across it's multiple manuscripts (even more reliable and consistent than the works of Homer) and all of it's predictions concerning Jesus and other things in the OT have come true thus far. There is no reason to doubt it's predictions will not come true again
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    turn to the lord while he is near, give up evil ways and thoughts, choose the things that please him. soon he will bring us to his holy mountain and make us joyful in his house.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I'm sorry, but you are wrong, there have been golden chariot wheels and both human and horse bones (especially femurs) which have been found in the vicinity of the area where it was expected to have taken place. They have also been verified by carbon dating by respected universities to be too old to have been placed there by any over-enthusiatic christians aswell

    http://wyattmuseum.com/discovering/red-sea-crossing

    It's true that there is no direct external evidence that the apocalypse will take place, but the Bible is considered very reliable even across it's multiple manuscripts (even more reliable and consistent than the works of Homer) and all of it's predictions concerning Jesus and other things in the OT have come true thus far. There is no reason to doubt it's predictions will not come true again
    Is that what you call evidence? The link you provided is a junk one, looks like one of those weird Christian sites and looking into Ron Wyatt shows he was an amateur archaeologist whose claims were largely dismissed by scientists and historians alike. You cannot hope to prove an event that defies the laws of physics without directly providing evidence for this, not through vague assertions and ambiguous inferences.

    There is no external evidence that supports the Bible's supernatural events and you have just confirmed that there is no external evidence in favour of the apocalypse.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Is that what you call evidence? The link you provided is a junk one, looks like one of those weird Christian sites and looking into Ron Wyatt shows he was an amateur archaeologist whose claims were largely dismissed by scientists and historians alike. You cannot hope to prove an event that defies the laws of physics without directly providing evidence for this, not through vague assertions and ambiguous inferences.

    There is no external evidence that supports the Bible's supernatural events and you have just confirmed that there is no external evidence in favour of the apocalypse.
    Professional archeologists cannot carry out studies in that particular geographical region at present due to restrictions by the Egyptian government, however, when these restrictions are lifted his claims will be validated, like I already said, one of the prominent universities in one the nordic countries (can't remember which one it was) backed up his claims.

    There are many more sites talking about this evidence other than that one and in any case that doesn't invalidate the heaps of other archaeological evidence found in support of the Bible

    Naturally, how can you find evidence about an event which hasn't happened yet? The point of the apocalypse is that is happens in the future. Regardless of what you or any other skeptic says it will happen. My advice to you is to prepare for it because Hell is not a nice place.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Professional archeologists cannot carry out studies in that particular geographical region at present due to restrictions by the Egyptian government, however, when these restrictions are lifted his claims will be validated, like I already said, one of the prominent universities in one the nordic countries (can't remember which one it was) backed up his claims.

    There are many more sites talking about this evidence other than that one and in any case that doesn't invalidate the heaps of other archaeological evidence found in support of the Bible

    Naturally, how can you find evidence about an event which hasn't happened yet? The point of the apocalypse is that is happens in the future. Regardless of what you or any other skeptic says it will happen. My advice to you is to prepare for it because Hell is not a nice place.
    Validating remains =/= validating that the sea was parted and that known laws of the universe were violated. I can bet my life there will be no serious journal confirming this.

    You're just making empty assertions again. It won't happen, regardless of what religionists say because there is not a shred of evidence it will.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Professional archeologists cannot carry out studies in that particular geographical region at present due to restrictions by the Egyptian government, however, when these restrictions are lifted his claims will be validated, like I already said, one of the prominent universities in one the nordic countries (can't remember which one it was) backed up his claims.

    There are many more sites talking about this evidence other than that one and in any case that doesn't invalidate the heaps of other archaeological evidence found in support of the Bible

    Naturally, how can you find evidence about an event which hasn't happened yet? The point of the apocalypse is that is happens in the future. Regardless of what you or any other skeptic says it will happen. My advice to you is to prepare for it because Hell is not a nice place.
    AngryRedHead and all derivatives.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Validating remains =/= validating that the sea was parted and that known laws of the universe were violated. I can bet my life there will be no serious journal confirming this.

    You're just making empty assertions again. It won't happen, regardless of what religionists say because there is not a shred of evidence it will.
    Oh yeah true, they can't prove for certain that God parted the red sea but they can prove that a large number of people and animals just happened to die and their chariots and remains were found at a spot on the sea bed where it would have been impossible to place there by natural means at the time from when the remains were dated from. They can also prove that the appearance of said chariots are historically concordant with the designs of the chariots from that particular period in history and that the description of said chariots matches what is described in the Biblical book of Exodus account

    But you and other skeptics will ignore all this because there is no evidence present today from an event that will happen in the future
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    the Referendum result is prophesied in Revelations:

    and on the third day the people shall cast lots. the young man stayeth with his brethren and for scorn saith "of coolness hath this lot casting naught neither be it hip" and they fall to drinking and fornication. on the fourth day the lots shall shew that the nation is to be torn asunder. a mighty woe has befallen the land. the young folk cry "for shame" and tear at the beards of the elders and saith "we wot not that the lots would fall against us. we demandeth a second go" at which the elders laugh as the jackal.
    and darkness fell upon the land and the goodness thereof was poured away. *
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Oh yeah true, they can't prove for certain that God parted the red sea but they can prove that a large number of people and animals just happened to die and their chariots and remains were found at a spot on the sea bed where it would have been impossible to place there by natural means at the time from when the remains were dated from. They can also prove that the appearance of said chariots are historically concordant with the designs of the chariots from that particular period in history and that the description of said chariots matches what is described in the Biblical book of Exodus account

    But you and other skeptics will ignore all this because there is no evidence present today from an event that will happen in the future
    Natural explanations, no matter how unlikely, will always trump supernatural ones because the former can conceivably have happened, whereas the latter could not as no serious and accepted evidence for the supernatural has ever been provided. There's even an institution that offers a million pounds for anyone who can demonstrate supernatural abilities under controlled conditions and after all this time there hasn't been a single claimant.

    Why would we believe ludicrous claims about future events that are 1) completely implausible and 2) violate laws of nature? Do you believe the apocalypse predictions of other religions?
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