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    (Original post by theBranicAc)
    whats the purpose of that?
    showing your double standard mate
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    (Original post by Esoteric-)
    By all means, please go ahead and stick your head in the sand.

    Life is a zero sum game. Your ignorance is my strength. Good day
    would you care to explain yourself?

    oh yeah you sexists don't believe in logic
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    I am not wrong it is a fact of life dear which you cannot deny.

    Second yes I did use the word slut because it is appropriate in this discussion and within the context, you say you have no respect for me this is fine you don't have to respect me , you don't know me.

    Sexism is not a system of oppression , did someone tell you this in your female studies class or in one of your feminist books?

    Lad culture does not exist, I won't even bother commenting on it, the fact you bring up this idea of lad culture and don't know the female equivalent which is ladette culture which once again is a bs culture, just sums you up.

    I can see you are already getting ready to prepare your self victimisation field, so I will leave you at it.

    Why must you even bring up rape? What has rape or lad culture got to do with the conversation at hand?

    I don't think people judging others necessarily means they are intolerant, so you are wrong in this thinking for sure.
    Well I can because there is not bloody evidence.

    Yeah it is, it is the fact that girls get cat called and abused so many more times than men do, that they get followed and hurled abuse at, but you wouldn't understand that, because you haven't touched a girl with a ten foot pole.

    Lad culture does exist, go to any university or boys only school, trust me, I know it does, because I went to a boys only school for the last 6 years, I know for a fact it does.

    I'm just saying it's another example of the system of oppression.

    No, I don't 'self-victimualise' or whatever, I'm a guy, I just can't stand sexists
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    I've been seeing it a lot lately and it's pathetic.
    Those guys clearly don't get the slightest bit of attention from females, it's quite obvious.
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    Well I can because there is not bloody evidence.

    Yeah it is, it is the fact that girls get cat called and abused so many more times than men do, that they get followed and hurled abuse at, but you wouldn't understand that, because you haven't touched a girl with a ten foot pole.

    Lad culture does exist, go to any university or boys only school, trust me, I know it does, because I went to a boys only school for the last 6 years, I know for a fact it does.

    I'm just saying it's another example of the system of oppression.

    No, I don't 'self-victimualise' or whatever, I'm a guy, I just can't stand sexists
    Ewww ein Marxist, follows the beliefs of a man that never worked in his life and wrote drivel, funded by the son of a factory owner exploiting the masses, is that your double standard?
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    Having browsed this subsection of TSR recently, why do loads of guys here feel so ****ing entitled to girls! There is such a double standard when it comes to having sex, for guys it is cool for them to do it as much as possible, but for girls if they've ever had sex they are 'sluts'. What gives the sexless freaks on here the feeling that they can judge people who are going out and enjoying themselves?
    Why is men objectifying women considered evidence of how sexist we all are, yet the app Lulu has millions of users and no one bats an eyelid?
    Why is it considered unacceptable for women to be held to any 'ideal' body shape, but holding men to the 'shredded' ideal is fine?
    Why is it that women are given significantly lesser sentences than men for identical crimes?
    Why are women who have sex with minors considered to be so much better than men who do the same?
    And I could go on......

    I'd argue that men, more than women, suffer from double standards in the 21st century western world.

    Incidentally, to answer your question, there's some evidence to suggest it has its roots in evolution. Essentially, if a male of a species can mate with multiple females it implies that they hold some advantage over their competitors, making them a more suitable mating partner. On the other hand, if a female mates with many males then there's a lesser chance of any given male successfully passing on their genes by mating with that female, making them a less suitable mating partner. Evolutionary psychology gets a lot of bad press it doesn't deserve.
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    Having browsed this subsection of TSR recently, why do loads of guys here feel so ****ing entitled to girls! There is such a double standard when it comes to having sex, for guys it is cool for them to do it as much as possible, but for girls if they've ever had sex they are 'sluts'. What gives the sexless freaks on here the feeling that they can judge people who are going out and enjoying themselves?
    Also you're generalizing everything you see on the thread, ofc "guys" SEXIST WORD U FASCIST, feel entitled to a girl, everyone wants a girl.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Why is men objectifying women considered evidence of how sexist we all are, yet the app Lulu has millions of users and no one bats an eyelid?
    Why is it considered unacceptable for women to be held to any 'ideal' body shape, but holding men to the 'shredded' ideal is fine?
    Why is it that women are given significantly lesser sentences than men for identical crimes?
    Why are women who have sex with minors considered to be so much better than men who do the same?
    And I could go on......

    I'd argue that men, more than women, suffer from double standards in the 21st century western world.

    Incidentally, to answer your question, there's some evidence to suggest it has its roots in evolution. Essentially, if a male of a species can mate with multiple females it implies that they hold some advantage over their competitors, making them a more suitable mating partner. On the other hand, if a female mates with many males then there's a lesser chance of any given male successfully passing on their genes by mating with that female, making them a less suitable mating partner. Evolutionary psychology gets a lot of bad press it doesn't deserve.
    aww using evolutionary to justify your sexism, cute.
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    aww using evolutionary to justify your sexism, cute.
    Congratulations on ignoring the first half of my post. Nothing to say on the numerous double standards which go the other way?

    Also, you'll note that I was very careful to say 'there's some evidence to suggest' rather than make any absolute claims, precisely because it's pretty difficult to prove anything to do with evolutionary psychology. But it certainly does get slated rather more than is fair. It's not without its merit. I'd suggest it's rather more narrow minded to immediately rule out any explanation based on evolutionary psychology on account of it using evolutionary psychology, rather than contesting the actual facts.

    Further, I don't think I said that I have anything against women who sleep around; that would largely be because I don't. I could care less what women do or don't do with their bodies. The OP asked why some guys have a problem with women who sleep around, and I gave one possible reason. Doesn't mean I subscribe to that viewpoint, as in fact I don't. So maybe you should slow down before jumping to unfounded conclusions?
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    We all objectify people, men & women it just happens that when a men does it he is deemed some sort of threat or sexist. So it's actually the anti male haters in here likely females and male feminists who are in-fact being sexist to males.
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    Ok you are just wrong. Firstly, you use the term 'slut' which immediately means I have no respect for you. No, I am not tolerant of the intolerant, sorry.

    And that simply is not true. Sexism is a system of oppression. Women can be discriminatory to men, but not sexist. Also, what is the female equivalent of rape or lad culture?
    The female equivalent of rape is some sub section of sexual assault as women can never be held to the same standard as men, when was the last time a women was charged for sleeping with a drunk man?

    Also would you want a man who has slept around a lot?
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    Well I can because there is not bloody evidence.

    Yeah it is, it is the fact that girls get cat called and abused so many more times than men do, that they get followed and hurled abuse at, but you wouldn't understand that, because you haven't touched a girl with a ten foot pole.

    Lad culture does exist, go to any university or boys only school, trust me, I know it does, because I went to a boys only school for the last 6 years, I know for a fact it does.

    I'm just saying it's another example of the system of oppression.

    No, I don't 'self-victimualise' or whatever, I'm a guy, I just can't stand sexists
    Everyone get's abused in the streets, this crime is not only specific to women.

    Lad culture is a term created by some anti male angry feminist looking for feminist rep, maybe to sell her latest women studies book.

    You are self victimising even as a guy you can do that , we can all do, it does not depend on your sex but on your mentality.
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    (Original post by iamamarxist)
    why do loads of guys here feel so ****ing entitled to girls
    You get a lot of dorks on TSR :dontknow:

    There is such a double standard when it comes to having sex, for guys it is cool for them to do it as much as possible, but for girls if they've ever had sex they are 'sluts'
    It's not a double standard as males and females are not the same e.g. psychophysiologically/psychosexually (hence, cannot be compared by way of reference to a single standard). It's not "sexist" to reflect matter-of-fact differences unless it conveys a general impression of inferiority

    What gives the sexless freaks on here the feeling that they can judge people who are going out and enjoying themselves?
    How: internet annonymty

    Why: embittered virgins/betas/cucks + genuine psychological/sociological concern for vulnerable young people/society more broadly..

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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    I abhor random/hateful slut-shaming but also feel that shame, perversely, serves a useful societal purpose - and that its relative absence is a huge part of why Britain is 'broken' e.g. transient relations, psychological harm, fatherlessness and intergenerational strife, in the context of YOLO
    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    I'm a pragmatic egalitarian. I recognise the need for fairness but cannot deny certain practical realities of life. More specifically I'm also a learned graduate social scientist and an integrative physiology researcher, who knows a thing or two about distinct male vs. female psychophysiology

    ... correlation between female promiscuity and adverse psychobehavioural and relationship/marital outcomes, and the (intergenerational) social impact that these things have on the children (broken families) of tomorrow

    We do not live in a perfect world in which all beings are omniscient (regarding these correlations) and always listen to reason/believe that they are susceptible to certain facts of life. Hence, regrettably, irrefutably, a degree of shame serves a useful pro-social purpose

    ... many females come a cropper when they buy, wholesale, into this rather wishful post-feminist thinking [that sexual relations can simply {and sustainably} be dispassioante NSA fun]. We cannot escape our physiologies and our psychosexual chemistry is a complex and nuanced thing; beyond oxytocin and bonding in intimacy, there are also psychosocial elements to sexual relations that have a plethora of permutations (not all of which are exclusive to the female sexual experience of course)
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    people can judge who they want mrs thought police
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    I see it a lot online, but very rarely in everyday life thankfully. Think it is the anonymity coupled with the fact they are bitter and frustrated. They want to be the guy the so called 'sluts' are sleeping with. Even if they disagree with women sleeping around it's not necessary to be so insulting about them.
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    (Original post by keturah)
    I see it a lot online, but very rarely in everyday life thankfully. Think it is the anonymity coupled with the fact they are bitter and frustrated. They want to be the guy the so called 'sluts' are sleeping with. Even if they disagree with women sleeping around it's not necessary to be so insulting about them.
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    (Original post by Raees_Sharif)
    people can judge who they want mrs thought police
    But what if someone gets triggered? :O
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    (Original post by keturah)
    I see it a lot online, but very rarely in everyday life thankfully. Think it is the anonymity coupled with the fact they are bitter and frustrated. They want to be the guy the so called 'sluts' are sleeping with. Even if they disagree with women sleeping around it's not necessary to be so insulting about them.
    When you realise that there's historical evidence that shows that as women become more sexually liberated cohesion and structure in society disintegrates, then you see why slut shaming is very much a necessary evil


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    :console:



    But what if someone gets triggered? :O
    dial 999 to be escorted to the nearest safe space
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    (Original post by Esoteric-)
    When you realise that there's historical evidence that shows that as women become more sexually liberated cohesion and structure in society disintegrates, then you see why slut shaming is very much a necessary evil


    If you mean women having to stay in abusive and unhappy marriages, sure, society was so much better. Guess what women love sex too and some enjoy casual sex, as long as they don't cheat and use protection then I don't see a problem. If they feel bad after having casual sex then it's probably not healthy for them to do, but everyone is different.
 
 
 
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