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    (Original post by Tootles)
    Don't be so dramatic, that could be a fifteen-minute drive from Wythenshawe to Stockport.
    Only if the border is open
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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    There is a direct link to wealth and the numbers of migrants coming to find work.
    Nonsense. There is a direct link between wealth being concentrated in London and some other cities and overall prosperity than anything else. The North is completely neglected just like much of the UK.

    (Original post by richpanda)
    Why are Tower Hamlets, Luton and Rotherham so poor then?
    They're not just poor, they're complete shitholes.
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    Grimsby has a population of around 90K. NE Lincs has marginally more inward commuters 11,620 than outward commuters 11,267

    Epsom and Ewell has a population of 78K. It has inward commuters of 15,235 and outward commuters of 23,048

    In the last stats 2498 people in North East Lincolnshire were claiming JSA a rate of 2.5%.

    You were more likely to be claiming JSA in Birmingham 3.4% or Nottingham 3% than Grimsby.
    Where do you get that from?

    Although I must say that the road traffic definitely suggests more outward commuters.
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    Yet Scotland is poor and the North is extremely non-White.
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    (Original post by Gora The Xplorer)
    Yet Scotland is poor and the North is extremely non-White.
    How did you work these two out?

    Pockets yes like most places, but not overall in both cases.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    How did you work these two out?

    Pockets yes like most places, but not overall in both cases.
    Scotland is poorer than England lol.
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    (Original post by Gora The Xplorer)
    Scotland is poorer than England lol.
    Slightly yes, but they aren't poor.
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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    The Scottish people as well as Londoners and people from Manchester know if you want to get rich you have to be welcoming to migrants.

    There is a direct link to wealth and the numbers of migrants coming to find work.

    Brexit could potentially turn the whole country into a northern "waste land".

    How do we go about making northern people love migrants?

    Is there an answer to this?

    Surely if Scotland, even its poorer towns such as Paisley, can love migrants, then why cant our northern towns?

    What is going on up there? I've never been up north (apart from passing through to get to relatives in Scotland). Could someone from there tell me what is going on?

    Do not be silly man.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Slightly yes, but they aren't poor.
    They why should OP tell out voters the EU makes you rich if the only wealthy area which voted to stay is London? :rofl:
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    (Original post by M14B)
    Do not be silly man.
    >Manchester and Scotland
    >Rich

    Pick one.
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    (Original post by Gora The Xplorer)
    They why should OP tell out voters the EU makes you rich if the only wealthy area which voted to stay is London? :rofl:
    I have no idea.

    I'm getting slightly worried about FredOrJohn these days. :lol:
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    Immigrants come to prosperous places because they are prosperous, a bunch of economic migrants turning up in Hull would not appreciably increase regional prosperity.

    If OP were correct then Leeds would be poor and Bradford would not be an offensive dive.

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    Now i do support mass immigration of a kind so i'm not suggesting immigrants are not beneficial, just asserting that your using too broad a brush.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Immigrants come to prosperous places because they are prosperous, a bunch of economic migrants turning up in Hull would not appreciably increase regional prosperity.

    If OP were correct then Leeds would be poor and Bradford would not be an offensive dive.

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    Now i do support mass immigration of a kind so i'm not suggesting immigrants are not beneficial, just asserting that your using too broad a brush.
    Huh? what kind of "mass immigration" do you support? what kind aare there?
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    As rakas already said.

    Do migrants flock to a random place and then make it rich.

    Or do migrants choose to flock to rich places?

    Quite obviously it's the latter.
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    OP is full of rubbish to be honest. The South is rich because of the velocity of money travelling outside of London. Take away the ability to print money from the banks and London would slow down.

    Also there has been little to no investment in giving young people skills & trades in which they can use to manufacture products which are sought after though out the global economy.

    Take a lesson from Mondragon Corporation in Spain or any Chinese factory. Giving young people a education in Engineering allows them to migrate their skills to other disciplines and eventually make products out of their own creative concepts.

    Fact is the British people where robbed of their prosperity though Engineering by the Tory asset strippers and the regulation crazy Labour party. Then lets not forget the EU which kept the British people from taking risks privately due to small business being kept at bay.
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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    The Scottish people as well as Londoners and people from Manchester know if you want to get rich you have to be welcoming to migrants.

    There is a direct link to wealth and the numbers of migrants coming to find work.

    Brexit could potentially turn the whole country into a northern "waste land".

    How do we go about making northern people love migrants?

    Is there an answer to this?

    Surely if Scotland, even its poorer towns such as Paisley, can love migrants, then why cant our northern towns?

    What is going on up there? I've never been up north (apart from passing through to get to relatives in Scotland). Could someone from there tell me what is going on?
    LMAO, tell that to Blackburners :laugh: :toofunny:
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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Where do you get that from?

    Although I must say that the road traffic definitely suggests more outward commuters.
    http://www.neighbourhood.statistics....666128675&sc=1
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    OP is full of rubbish to be honest. The South is rich because of the velocity of money travelling outside of London. Take away the ability to print money from the banks and London would slow down.

    Also there has been little to no investment in giving young people skills & trades in which they can use to manufacture products which are sought after though out the global economy.

    Take a lesson from Mondragon Corporation in Spain or any Chinese factory. Giving young people a education in Engineering allows them to migrate their skills to other disciplines and eventually make products out of their own creative concepts.

    Fact is the British people where robbed of their prosperity though Engineering by the Tory asset strippers and the regulation crazy Labour party. Then lets not forget the EU which kept the British people from taking risks privately due to small business being kept at bay.
    There has been NO investment In youth, just make believe schemes that do nothing .
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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    The Scottish people as well as Londoners and people from Manchester know if you want to get rich you have to be welcoming to migrants.

    There is a direct link to wealth and the numbers of migrants coming to find work.

    Brexit could potentially turn the whole country into a northern "waste land".

    How do we go about making northern people love migrants?

    Is there an answer to this?

    Surely if Scotland, even its poorer towns such as Paisley, can love migrants, then why cant our northern towns?

    What is going on up there? I've never been up north (apart from passing through to get to relatives in Scotland). Could someone from there tell me what is going on?
    The north has always been poorer which has been exacerbated since the decline of industry.

    Scotland isn't rich and welcomes migrants so that pours water over your argument


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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    The Scottish people as well as Londoners and people from Manchester know if you want to get rich you have to be welcoming to migrants.

    There is a direct link to wealth and the numbers of migrants coming to find work.

    Brexit could potentially turn the whole country into a northern "waste land".

    How do we go about making northern people love migrants?

    Is there an answer to this?

    Surely if Scotland, even its poorer towns such as Paisley, can love migrants, then why cant our northern towns?

    What is going on up there? I've never been up north (apart from passing through to get to relatives in Scotland). Could someone from there tell me what is going on?
    Migrants who undercut and drive down wages in the Midlands and North. I live on the Birmingham Border and when i was 4 years old 71% of our population was White and our living standards was much better when you take into consideration the inflation and increase of bills. Now every other face is a black or brown one not to mention a lot of the white faces are Polish. We want our country back, they do not care in the south because the only thing we have got from the EU is foreigners
 
 
 
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