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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Can I get a reference to the current TSR law because that whole act needs replacing

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    You can work hard and look for it instead of expecting public hand outs all the time
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Actually the only MPs who don't do it are the Sinn Fein ones

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    That's kind of what I was pointing out, that they exist....
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Ummm, how about the MONARCHY part of being a constitutional monarchy?
    Except that the country is only a constitutional monarchy in name. The Queen has no impact on the system except through Royal Assent, and that in itself is ceremonial.
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    Wow what a really useful, resourceful and worthwhile suggestion. I can greatly see this being of huge use/importance in Mhoc.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Except that the country is only a constitutional monarchy in name. The Queen has no impact on the system except through Royal Assent, and that in itself is ceremonial.
    The royal perogative very much exists, not exercising it often doesn't stop it being there

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    Would this include proxies? Also, may you please change "his username" to his or her or s/he. Not every MP is a male you know. :rolleyes:

    If it include proxies, nay, if it doesn't, a possible abstain.
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    (Original post by McRite)
    Would this include proxies? Also, may you please change "his username" to his or her or s/he. Not every MP is a male you know. :rolleyes:

    If it include proxies, nay, if it doesn't, a possible abstain.
    Their is going to be the best choice if we're wanting to be super PC, but "his" is perfectly valid irrespective of sex

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Their is going to be the best choice if we're wanting to be super PC, but "his" is perfectly valid irrespective of sex

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    Wasn't trying to be too PC, but I see your point on that issue.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The royal perogative very much exists, not exercising it often doesn't stop it being there

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    If the Queen attempted to use her powers to deny a bill passing into law, I believe those powers would be very quickly removed from her.

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    "swear by Almighty God"

    What if one is not religious, or specifically a follower of an Abrahamic religion?

    You might say it doesn't matter. They can still say it. But if they say it and don't mean it, what's the point of making them swear it in the first place? This isn't a theocracy.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    If the Queen attempted to use her powers to deny a bill passing into law, I believe those powers would be very quickly removed from her.

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    "swear by Almighty God"

    What if one is not religious, or specifically a follower of an Abrahamic religion?

    You might say it doesn't matter. They can still say it. But if they say it and don't mean it, what's the point of making them swear it in the first place? This isn't a theocracy.
    Depends on the act

    That's what affirmation is there for...pandering to the non conformists.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    That's what affirmation is there for...pandering to the non conformists.

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    It's not really non-conformists when half the country isn't religious.
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    (Original post by DanE1998)
    Aye.

    This is a stimulatory amendment and it is what is allowed according to Cannon.

    Further changes would need primary legislative change - I think.
    Not to change procedure within the MHoC – MHoC bills cannot change procedure, only amendments can.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    It's not really non-conformists when half the country isn't religious.
    Last I checked it's less than half and that doesn't change it is still a Christian country.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Last I checked it's less than half and that doesn't change it is still a Christian country.

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    In reference to the first part.

    How is it still a Christian country? We have legalised gay marriage, which goes against Christianity. We don't kill adulterers, which goes against Christianity. I could go on.
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    Nay, as others said i don't think it's a big help to realism to have to swear an oath, it just makes the MHoC seem even more intimidating to newbies.

    And again, when half the MPs neither believe in God nor support the queen, the oath becomes kind of meaningless.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    In reference to the first part.

    How is it still a Christian country? We have legalised gay marriage, which goes against Christianity. We don't kill adulterers, which goes against Christianity. I could go on.
    Because we have a state religion, perhaps?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because we have a state religion, perhaps?

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    We don't have an official state religion.
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    Aye, great idea here. I would just make one suggestion - that the Speaker or Deputy Speaker (whoever is OP) has to first take the Oath in OP.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    We don't have an official state religion.
    I don't know where you're from, but I do, and every time both IRL and in this era the left has tried to disestablish the CoE they failed.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I don't know where you're from, but I do, and every time both IRL and in this era the left has tried to disestablish the CoE they failed.

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    I'm from England. I assume you are also.

    The Church of England is at an all time low membership. It can hardly be said to be the official religion. How can any religion be said to be a state religion when half the country doesn't follow any religion at all?
 
 
 
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