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    I wasn't born to Muslim parents but I chose to become one.

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    (Original post by D00)
    I dislike illogical, irrational positions in life. Religion that espouses homophobia and sexism is not a good thing to defend, by the way.

    Everyone has right to practice whatever religion they want, regardless if you don't agree with it or not.

    There's no need to spread hate. Hatred spreads more hatred it's a endless cycle.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Everyone has right to practice whatever religion they want, regardless if you don't agree with it or not.

    There's no need to spread hate. Hatred spreads more hatred it's a endless cycle.
    But Islam spreads hate. It spreads homophobia, sexism and non-Muslim bigotry.

    Shall we leave the neo-Nazi's alone too, then?
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    (Original post by D00)
    Then you're a bit of an idiot then, sorry.
    How rich
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    I wasn't born to Muslim parents but I chose to become one.

    What made you choose it
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    How rich
    If you decide to believe in the illogical and irrational through no fault but your own then you're an idiot. Simple as.
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    (Original post by ImNotReallyMe)
    Exactly, the apostate thing is funny cos there's simply no room even for you to leave Islam and then come back, once you've left that's it,
    What do you mean by you can't come back?
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    (Original post by D00)
    But Islam spreads hate. It spreads homophobia, sexism and non-Muslim bigotry.

    Shall we leave the neo-Nazi's alone too, then?


    If you think Islam spreads hate then why do you spread hate towards Islam.
    Don't you see what's going on, the cycle of hate is not going to stop.
    It's going to continue you can stop this cycle by not spreading hate.

    Let them have their views and you have yours, put your differences to a side and just get along with these people.
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    (Original post by D00)
    If you decide to believe in the illogical and irrational through no fault but your own then you're an idiot. Simple as.
    One could equally say the same to you since you illogically and irrationally believe Islam to be illogical and irrational; then again, my manners aren't as bad as yours to believe that

    May Allah guide you

    (Original post by ImNotReallyMe)
    What made you choose it
    Based on my reading and my logic, if ever there was a religion from God, then Islam would be it IMO. I am yet to see any obvious flaw in the religion, with people's only objections to being able to reconcile their actions with free will, if a God exists in the first place, or subjectively moral issues.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you think Islam spreads hate then why do you spread hate towards Islam.
    Don't you see what's going on, the cycle of hate is not going to stop.
    It's going to continue you can stop this cycle by not spreading hate.

    Let them have their views and you have yours, put your differences to a side and just get along with these people.
    Would you leave the neo-Nazi's and let their views of anti-semitism foster and brew and bubble because you're scared of confronting them views?

    Islam spreads hate due to illogical, irrational beliefs. Islam needs to modernise and libealise.

    A gay man can't put his differences aside and get along with a Muslim.
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    One could equally say the same to you since you illogically and irrationally believe Islam to be illogical and irrational; then again, my manners aren't as bad as yours to believe that

    May Allah guide you



    Based on my reading and my logic, if ever there was a religion from God, then Islam would be it IMO. I am yet to see any obvious flaw in the religion, with people mostly only objective to being able to reconcile their actions with free will, if a God exists in the first place, or subjectively moral issues.
    Allah doesn't exist my friend. Open your eyes, wake up and smell the coffee. Religion was invented by man millenia upon millenia ago to control people, idiots like you, for example.
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    What do you mean by you can't come back?
    Think she means that if one apostacises, then either they are completely villified or they could be killed, therefore there is hardly much room for one to turn back, in her opinion...
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    What do you mean by you can't come back?
    Disbelieving in Allah is the ultimate sin in Islam and once you commit it you are never forgiven no matter how much you repent etc. So you have no chance of becoming Muslim again once atheist and you'll be doomed eternally to hell
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    Think she means that if one apostacises, then either they are completely villified or they could be killed, therefore there is hardly much room for one to turn back, in her opinion...
    Ok. Thanks.

    Edit - No seems you wrong nub.
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    Based on my reading and my logic, if ever there was a religion from God, then Islam would be it IMO. I am yet to see any obvious flaw in the religion, with people mostly only objective to being able to reconcile their actions with free will, if a God exists in the first place, or subjectively moral issues.

    I have a list of flaws:

    Rampant homophobia
    Rampant sexism
    Apostasy laws
    The calls for death and destruction
    Inequality
    A cellestial dictatorship which forbids you from drinking alcohol, eating pork. And tells you to get on your knees and prey.
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    (Original post by D00)
    Allah doesn't exist my friend.
    Prove it

    Religion was invented by man millenia upon millenia ago to control people, idiots like you, for example.
    Prove it

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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    Prove it



    Prove it

    I can't prove it. But I can't also prove the Ginger Bread Man doesn't exist. Or fairies. Or dragons.

    You need to wake up and smell the coffee.

    The Qu'ran, and the Bible, were invented millenia ago by backward-thinking desert tribes who wanted to control people by making law and order. It was man's first attempt at philosophy.

    Do you believe in fairies too? Santa? They have as much evidence as 'Allah'.
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    (Original post by ImNotReallyMe)
    Disbelieving in Allah is the ultimate sin in Islam and once you commit it you are never forgiven no matter how much you repent etc. So you have no chance of becoming Muslim again once atheist and you'll be doomed eternally to hell
    Anyone can repent as long as they are alive. But if you die, then you won't be forgiven for this sin on DOJ. I've never seen a scholar say anything other than that. ;p
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    (Original post by D00)
    I have a list of flaws:

    Rampant homophobia
    Rampant sexism
    Apostasy laws
    The calls for death and destruction
    Inequality
    A cellestial dictatorship which forbids you from drinking alcohol, eating pork. And tells you to get on your knees and prey.
    You proved the point of my post, my antagonistic young periwinkle - you just listed a bunch of subjective flaws mostly related to morals :console:
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    (Original post by D00)
    I can't prove it. But I can't also prove the Ginger Bread Man doesn't exist. Or fairies. Or dragons.

    I'm not making the positive claim that they don't exist, rather I say I believe they dont exist

    The Qu'ran, and the Bible, were invented millenia ago by backward-thinking desert tribes who wanted to control people by making law and order. It was man's first attempt at philosophy.
    Prove it
 
 
 
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