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    (Original post by fefssdf)
    ohhh i see you haven't applied yet well in that case just apply for oxbridge and warwick a few other Brussel groups : i wish you all the best xx
    The Brussel group: the top Sprouts of Higher Education
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    The Brussel group: the top Sprouts of Higher Education
    Haha
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    Perks of being an 'all-rounder' (minus all the stuff like Geography and DT that I dropped ASAP haha... and don't even talk about PE...) It's annoying in a way though haha. But I know at the end of the day it's unlikely to have a HUGE difference, and I'm in a privileged situation to have multiple choices

    If you're not already at uni, enjoy Maths and good luck Out of interest, where are you (going)?
    My firm is Nottingham and my insurance is Manchester but they both want AAA so this will be interesting come results day, and thanks I'm scared and excited ahh ; I'm sure you will make your mind up and just be thankful you have all these options here !
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    (Original post by -Miracle)
    The Brussel group: the top Sprouts of Higher Education
    Hopefully I get into a Russel and not a Brussels group ; I bet the catered halls is just sprouts all day long hehe
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    (Original post by fefssdf)
    My firm is Nottingham and my insurance is Manchester but they both want AAA so this will be interesting come results day, and thanks I'm scared and excited ahh ; I'm sure you will make your mind up and just be thankful you have all these options here !
    Yeah My sister's going to Nottingham - she managed to get an unconditional though so she's way less stressed than she could be...
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    Yeah My sister's going to Nottingham - she managed to get an unconditional though so she's way less stressed than she could be...
    Ah congrats to your sister / unfortunately the maths department don't give out unconditionals
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    Basically, I'm 'good' at most of my subjects - but where I seem to do the best is in philosophy; I'm also going to take Econ A-level and have a feeling I could do pretty well in it

    I'm currently down to do Maths, FM, Philosophy&Ethics and Economics.

    I think I (will) prefer the Philosophy/Econ side but I know that the Maths is more important for CompSci, which will give me far more employment opportunities. However, my Maths is good (high A* at IGCSE taken early) but not GREAT so I would basically be unable to get into Oxbridge. On the other hand, I might be able to get in for something like PPE or E&M, where I think I'm quite a bit better.

    Do I sacrifice Oxbridge for a uni like Warwick (obviously a great uni, but it's not Oxbridge) for CompSci, or do I go with what I think I prefer and am better at, with the possibility of Oxbridge, but risking major employment troubles with rising automation?
    I'm going for PPE at Oxbridge and I'm doing exactly the same subjects, apart from I'm taking Further maths AS instead of A level, because it isn't necessary for an Oxbridge offer and I will have more time to dedicate to my other subjects.
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    (Original post by Marshall Taylor)
    I'm going for PPE at Oxbridge and I'm doing exactly the same subjects, apart from I'm taking Further maths AS instead of A level, because it isn't necessary for an Oxbridge offer and I will have more time to dedicate to my other subjects.
    What year are you in at the moment? If you're in Y12, how are you finding the subjects?
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    What year are you in at the moment? If you're in Y12, how are you finding the subjects?
    I'm just about to go into year 12, do you have any advice/tips for the subjects?
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    (Original post by Marshall Taylor)
    I'm just about to go into year 12, do you have any advice/tips for the subjects?
    Haha - I'm also about to start Year 12...

    Have you always been set on PPE or was the decision relatively recent? I'm curious, because I've been going round in circles the last 3 weeks...
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    Haha - I'm also about to start Year 12...

    Have you always been set on PPE or was the decision relatively recent? I'm curious, because I've been going round in circles the last 3 weeks...
    I have been interested and wanting to do PPE since the start of year 11 to be honest, I feel like it's one of the only ways to become fully academic (if you know what I mean). I feel like I'll be able to go into almost any job with specialist knowledge in maths, economics and philosophy. But, I'm quite tongue tied with PPE or straight up Law, I can still become a solicitor through either degree (law conversion), but I think that I would get bored with straight Law - hence why PPE is my current decision. The diversity fascinates me and with doing three subject at university, there will be the ultimate challenge of acing one of the arguably hardest degrees in the world and that's thrilling
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    (Original post by Marshall Taylor)
    I have been interested and wanting to do PPE since the start of year 11 to be honest, I feel like it's one of the only ways to become fully academic (if you know what I mean). I feel like I'll be able to go into almost any job with specialist knowledge in maths, economics and philosophy. But, I'm quite tongue tied with PPE or straight up Law, I can still become a solicitor through either degree (law conversion), but I think that I would get bored with straight Law - hence why PPE is my current decision. The diversity fascinates me and with doing three subject at university, there will be the ultimate challenge of acing one of the arguably hardest degrees in the world and that's thrilling
    Not entirely sure about 'fully academic' (as one could argue PPE has very little Maths compared to, say, Cambridge's Econ course, or CompSci/Maths/Physics/NatSci at either uni. Perhaps even 90% of PPEists having Maths is more of a function of the type of people who pick Maths - e.g. those from private schools - more frequently than the actual importance of the subject to the degree.)

    But I agree about the options and how amazing the course looks! I like the P, P and E, so it's just between that and options that might lead to more employment possibilities like CompSci, but I have a feeling the elitist overconfident prick in me might just want to give it a shot
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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    I get that in theory, but uni has two purposes: education and opening doors for employment. Reputation can be gained by course strength (e.g. Warwick Maths, although that's also research) or mainly by other factors, such as history in the case of Oxbridge. I imagine most employers care more about reputation than your specific course - I can't really imagine them reading through pages of course descriptions; so even if the course is better for me, the uni might not have the best rep in the subject and so on... I guess it should be *that* simple, but I don't really think it is.
    Most employers... actually ALL employers... care about finding the best applicants. They want to employ good people, not because they went to university XYZ instead of ABC.

    Do a course you think you will enjoy studying, at a university you will want to live at for 3 or 4 years.

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    I actually think it's harder to get into Oxbridge for PPE and E&M than it is for Comp Sci.

    I also wouldn't choose a single honours philosophy degree if you want to keep your employment prospects open..


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    (Original post by HelpMe3756)
    Not entirely sure about 'fully academic' (as one could argue PPE has very little Maths compared to, say, Cambridge's Econ course, or CompSci/Maths/Physics/NatSci at either uni. Perhaps even 90% of PPEists having Maths is more of a function of the type of people who pick Maths - e.g. those from private schools - more frequently than the actual importance of the subject to the degree.)

    But I agree about the options and how amazing the course looks! I like the P, P and E, so it's just between that and options that might lead to more employment possibilities like CompSci, but I have a feeling the elitist overconfident prick in me might just want to give it a shot
    I feel exactly the same about the inner elitist begging me to take it At my school you can take as many extra maths modules as you want, so in conjunction with further maths AS - I may also take the STEP exams and many more extra modules to give me the best "head start" against other let's say Cambridge math students, who would have taken them just to get in.
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    WHY do you want to go to Uni? This is the question that you need to honestly answer before you do anything else.

    Is it to develop your thinking skills, grow up, mature and then get a job that uses analytical skills, ability to present information clearly, and a 'trained brain', then doing any subject that makes you think (ie. PPE or any other social science combo) is worthwhile. Or is it 'I just want to go to Oxford' - why? Be very honest about that point - is it just that other people will admire you - are you really prepared for very intensive 8 week terms and heavy competition. 'Getting in' isnt worth anything if you cant cope/are miserable for 3 whole years once you get there.

    If you want to be trained for a very specific work area and feel that 'doing things' is more fun that 'thinking things' then go for Computer Science. Hundreds of different career pathways - and a job skill you could use anywhere in the world. Plus lots of postgrad and research opportunities.

    Open Days are brilliant for sorting out this sort of issue - you can go to the subject talks on both courses and get an insight into what it is really like as a Uni subject. That might make the choice clearer/easier for you.

    You will have FIVE Uni choices - so look at more than 'PPE at Oxford'. PPE is offered by many Universities as are other combos of subjects - Philosophy and Politics at Bristol for instance.

    Realistic info/advice about PPE here :
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/PPE_at_Oxford (read it all)
 
 
 
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