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    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    Not all Russel Group uni's are better than every non-RG uni, my uni was higher ranked than a quite a few RG uni's for my course. (And yes, I had offers from RG uni's, I chose not to go to them)

    And despite going to a non-RG uni, I still got a good job, and so my did my course mates, some getting jobs at some of the biggest companies.

    So no, going to a non-RG uni isn't going to be a disaster, it's just a weird TSR obsession with them. (And why trust kids who haven't even gone to uni or entered the world of work yet? They just look for reasons to make themselves feel better than others)

    I've NEVER seen an employer ask for a RG uni degree, or favour them.
    Whilst all that you say is correct, I actually have seen an employer favour RG degrees (law firm) - though I thought that was ridiculous.
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Cut arias science isn't really science, it's more maths and finance related.
    Haha rip me. And this is why I'm not going to uni to study either. Thanks for correcting me though, my bad.
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    In actuarial science you will find some employers to be slightly elitist and biased in your initial applications. You may find it slightly more difficult than others to secure your first post or graduate opportunity. There are many things you can do over the next 3 years to ensure that this effect is basically negligible: work experience, extra courses/curriculars or passing some of the actuarial exams before graduating. You'll also find many employers are now using blind applications (so degree name is blanked out to recruiters) or competency based application processes (so they set their own tests and use them rather than academic background).

    For anyone of substance, the above effect is to be such that I would not worry about where you study. Once you have a graduate job, your degree name won't mean anything. Your experience, exam passes and talent will be far more important.
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    (Original post by monkyvirus)
    Well I went to St Andrews (a non-RG) and I'm starting a PhD at Cardiff (a RG). St Andrews entrance requirements for a PhD were actually higher, which is why I didn't stay! For my undergraduate degree the requirements were the same.

    The RG, like the Ivy League, is a convenient shorthand for "good" universities but the actual criteria to belong in these groups isn't good teaching, student satisfaction, etc. so it doesn't tell you whether they're good for undergraduate students.

    No one cares about your undergraduate uni once you've graduated, not even for PhD studies. They care about you: how you performed, how you seem in interview, etc.
    I completely agree. Now days, for PHD applications or employers. Experience and you as a person are more important than where you did your degree.
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    I went to my uni as I had to stay at my parents - non-russell group and people who graduated with me are going on to work at elite firms/companies/study elsewhere etc. It makes no difference, as long as your uni has a good reputation it is fine.
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    I love ur comment .. thanks for reassuring me. I am predicted A*A*A A* in biology and maths and A in chemistry... but I want to go to bradford to study chemical engineering... it's ranked 4th after imperial . It is known to be good job prospects and high student satisfaction. .. good teaching as well. I knw a couple of people that have a degret from bradford and work for big firms. So please dnt be fooled. I applied for university of newcastle, Birmingham,notthingham and hull.
    I found out that the ruse groups didn't give as much sup port in class as well as placement. Please check out the complete university guide.
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    I got a 1st from Non-Russel group (it is however an ancient university so not sure if that affects the reputation???) and have a graduate placement at a top firm in Edinburgh
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    (Original post by Mandem67)
    Basically I'm not sure if I'll get into a Russell-Group for my course (actuarial science) because the entry requirements are quite high. But I've heard from people on here and some in my school that it's hard to get a good job without going to a Russell group and that people who don't go to Russell Groups are "dumb" and "have **** for brains".

    Is it true that non-RG universities are not well-respected by employers and will I be at a disadvantage if I don't get into a Russell group uni?

    And do you guys go to Russell Groups?
    Absolutely not! In fact I would say going to a non- Russell Group is somewhat better in terms of the relationship you get with your lecturers, there is more focus on you as a student, rather than the maintaining the ‘prestige of a uni’. To all those who say that your career choices are limited, I would say that’s absolute nonsense- for example in the whole of East of England, a uni with the second highest number of graduates in employment after 6 months is a non- Russell Group. All unis have different league tables for different things- just because a uni is classed as a Russell Group, doesn’t mean that all degree courses at these units are better than those at non- Russell Group unis!!
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    (Original post by Mandem67)
    Basically I'm not sure if I'll get into a Russell-Group for my course (actuarial science) because the entry requirements are quite high. But I've heard from people on here and some in my school that it's hard to get a good job without going to a Russell group and that people who don't go to Russell Groups are "dumb" and "have **** for brains".

    Is it true that non-RG universities are not well-respected by employers and will I be at a disadvantage if I don't get into a Russell group uni?

    And do you guys go to Russell Groups?
    I'm currently in the process of applying to universities too, and the advice I've been given is to go for the universities you genuinely like, and not to worry about their reputation.
    As long as you work hard and achieve a high standard degree, it doesn't matter where you go to university, employers will be interested in you.
    Just follow your heart. If you're interested in Russell Group universities perhaps risk it and apply to one? Though make sure that your other applications are to universities you feel you are more likely to get offers for. Attend open days, they really help. Keep in mind that you'll be attending this university for 3+ years; you want it to be somewhere you enjoy yourself, and not somewhere you've chosen based on reputation!!
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    (Original post by obis117)
    I love ur comment .. thanks for reassuring me. I am predicted A*A*A A* in biology and maths and A in chemistry... but I want to go to bradford to study chemical engineering... it's ranked 4th after imperial . It is known to be good job prospects and high student satisfaction. .. good teaching as well. I knw a couple of people that have a degret from bradford and work for big firms. So please dnt be fooled. I applied for university of newcastle, Birmingham,notthingham and hull.
    I found out that the ruse groups didn't give as much sup port in class as well as placement. Please check out the complete university guide.
    please don't go to Bradford with those grades

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    many people ve told me dat... bt still I feel dey will give me all the support to successfully get a first
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    Russell Group unis are good universities, they are NOT the only good universities in the country. Anyone who tells you that is talking out of their arse.

    There are 24 RG unis and they don't make up the top 24 unis, which means there are non-RG unis ranked higher than some RG unis. Most employers don't give a ****, if a uni is RG they will look at a given unis reputation and the quality of the course you take at that uni if anything.
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    It is not a problem if you go to a non Russell Group uni. It is what you make of uni that counts .
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    There’s not a problem with going to a non Russell Group university. Most of the universities I’ve applied for a not Russell Group, but they still have a high rate of employment after 6 months...
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