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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    What a complete ****ing idiot. What did she exp ect? If she wanted to prove her point she should of hitch hiked from azerbaijan to china.
    ITIYM "should have"

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    (Original post by HanSoloLuck)
    She went hitch hiking in a Muslim majority country to show how safe it is to be around Muslims, she was raped and murdered in the first Muslim country she entered by a Muslim.

    You are saying it's safer for her to hitch hike in a Muslim majority country like Turkey than European countries, and that this is just a statistical anomaly...
    There's no way of disapproving it , their homicide rate is lower than the most non Muslim countries.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    There's no way of disapproving it , their homicide rate is lower than the most non Muslim countries.
    pure homicide rates in this case are not enough to make a judgement over whether it would have been safer for her to travel in a muslim or non-muslim country, as they do not take into considering the specifics of the case.

    A relivant statistic would be:

    What is the likely hood of an white/non-muslim woman being raped / attacked / killed

    Or statistics for un-accompanied women.
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    pure homicide rates in this case are not enough to make a judgement over whether it would have been safer for her to travel in a muslim or non-muslim country, as they do not take into considering the specifics of the case.

    A relivant statistic would be:

    What is the likely hood of an white/non-muslim woman being raped / attacked / killed

    Or statistics for un-accompanied women.
    Doubt those stats are easy to find , if they even exist :L

    Although the OP seems to think Rape is just a Muslim problem when it occurs more often in non muslim countries.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    Doubt those stats are easy to find , if they even exist :L

    Although the OP seems to think Rape is just a Muslim problem when it occurs more often in non muslim countries.
    Rape occurs anywhere, but it's more likely to happen in areas where men are raised to believe women have the responsibility to be "modest" so they don't attract attention of sex hungry men. It gives them a sense of entitlement when they see an "immodest" woman.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    Doubt those stats are easy to find , if they even exist :L

    Although the OP seems to think Rape is just a Muslim problem when it occurs more often in non muslim countries.
    Ofcourse, the statistics would never exist, and your right that rape exists in a huge number of countries..

    The issue is that when referring to this specific case, because there is both a race and religious element involved, overall statistics are meaningless to the safety of the individual.

    For example:

    Lets hypothetically say the overall rate of rape in turkey is 3%, but the rate of rape for an individual white European girl in turkey travelling alone is around 15%

    In Europe maybe the overall number is higher at 4%, but the chance of a white European girl travelling alone is 9%

    She would be far less likely to be raped in a European country then turkey, if those numbers were true.. despite an overall higher rate of rape in Europe.

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    I am neither disagreeing with your point, or with the point made by the poster you were debating with, just suggesting that your use of statistics in this case is largely meaningless, due to the individuals race/religion potentially playing a big part in making her potentially more likely to be raped (or not.. we wont know without statistics, and they dont exist)

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    One thing I would also say though is be careful believing rape statistics in middle eastern countries.. When I was at university we had quite a few talks from middle eastern women who worked supporting women in that part of the world, and their view was that the numbers given by middle eastern governments are largely meaningless.. Rape is highly under-reported in those countries, as it often carries a much harsher (social, emotional, and pratical) punishment then it does in western countries.

    You also have to consider that the definition of rape is different, for example in some middle eastern countries a husband cannot rape his wife, as his wife is his to do as he pleases with.. whereas this is not the case in Europe.

    So do take the reported numbers of rapes in highly Islamic countries with a huge pinch of salt.
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    pure homicide rates in this case are not enough to make a judgement over whether it would have been safer for her to travel in a muslim or non-muslim country, as they do not take into considering the specifics of the case.

    A relivant statistic would be:

    What is the likely hood of an white/non-muslim woman being raped / attacked / killed

    Or statistics for un-accompanied women.
    Doubt many countries keep those stats.

    Rapes that end in murders (maybe by a stranger) per 100,000 pop would have been better.
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    (Original post by viffer)
    ITIYM "should have"

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    Alright. It was late and I was buzzed.
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    This whole thing is a metaphor for all looney liberals. When they put their money where their mouths are it all goes tits up. Why else did Yvette Cooper say she was going to take into her home some refugees and then not do it? What the left says and what the left actually does are two different things. Moralising is all well and good but it means nothing at the end of the day.
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    Her death does not show that Muslims are not peaceful. It merely shows that she encountered someone who was prepared to rape and murder her. That is all. The attacker might not even have been Muslim (yes, I know that in Turkey it is statistically probable, but again, that is all).

    A better indication would be to analyse the proportion of prison populations of people convicted of violent crime, compared to their proportion of the general population of various countries. (I have not done this, so I have no prior knowledge of the outcome)
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    Devil's advocate: Could have been due to the fact people get raped and murdered anywhere in the world , besides their murder is much lower than the states and a lot of European countries. , she would have been more likely to die there. If she had hitch-hiked from anywhere the risk of being raped and murdered is not 0% , the risk isn't even much greater in Turkey according to stats. Tbh it just shows you guys are delusional af , people get murdered and rape everywhere , wake up from your dreamland you clowns.



    surprisingly the lowest homicide rates are found in Kuwait , Bahrain etc.
    Ok lets say its just a coincidence.It could be.We should repeat the experiment.Except this time lets use two openly gay people.Have them travel across the middle east and see how far they get.I'm gonna say not that far.Obviously just a coincidence though nothing to do with the fact that homophobic and mysogynistic attitudes are prevalent across certain cultures.
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    (Original post by oShahpo)
    -Tries to prove Islam is peaceful

    -Dies by muslims

    Do people even think these days?
    Fixed.
 
 
 
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