Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free

Did we lose Hong Kong because of EU membership? Watch

    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Blame the EU? Incorporate Hong Kong back into the UK?

    Were you on the sauce when you wrote this post?
    PRSOM.
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    I know. It's one thing to go to some place and think people are barbaric and backwards and then say whatever goes, collateral. But to praise a civilization and show hw valuable it is and then install that as policy, just makes me sick. It wasn't even in the UK's long term national interests to do it, either. I used to view the link romantically but not when you find out more.
    It's just so sad.... to ruin millions of lives so that they can benefit from it.. as I said, disgusting, and this is one of reasons why we still have bloody wars on Earth.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by lawlieto)
    It's just so sad.... to ruin millions of lives so that they can benefit from it.. as I said, disgusting, and this is one of reasons why we still have bloody wars on Earth.
    The establishment of this country have been extraordinarily manipulative. Still are IMO. Mind you, I'm not a moral absolutist, I think Britain is complex and enigmatic, and I recognise there is no country without severe ills, especially ones that have used power over others.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    We lost the like of India because of Hitler and the war. No changing that.
    We gave away Hong Kong, seemingly without a fight, in '97.
    I'd like to find out why, and I now really rue EU membership and am wondering if the fact our hands were tied, meant that we couldn't hang on to Hong Kong...
    More broadly, what will be the future of Hong Kong, they have a certain amount of devolved autonomy, but surely had that under us. Will they want full independence? Would the international community help them, or please China?
    And here is a pipe dream, with a UK outside the EU, could we incorporate them again, given our historical links?

    And this is a separate point, but I was amazed to find this about Jamaica-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-colony.html

    Jesus we could have some of the empire back if we really wanted it. I guess tbh we'd rather have HK than Jamaica though, because of prosperity and safety.
    I'm fairly sure we did a deal before ww2 to hand India back and i think Hong Kong was on a lease. Either way we wouldn't have defended Hong Kong if attacked


    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    10
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    We lost the like of India because of Hitler and the war. No changing that.
    We gave away Hong Kong, seemingly without a fight, in '97.
    I'd like to find out why, and I now really rue EU membership and am wondering if the fact our hands were tied, meant that we couldn't hang on to Hong Kong...
    More broadly, what will be the future of Hong Kong, they have a certain amount of devolved autonomy, but surely had that under us. Will they want full independence? Would the international community help them, or please China?
    And here is a pipe dream, with a UK outside the EU, could we incorporate them again, given our historical links?

    And this is a separate point, but I was amazed to find this about Jamaica-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-colony.html

    Jesus we could have some of the empire back if we really wanted it. I guess tbh we'd rather have HK than Jamaica though, because of prosperity and safety.
    We 'lost' Hong Kong because of the agreements we made with China for it's possession were coming to their end, the Chinese government basically threatened the UK with rolling right in with the PLA if the UK didn't hand it over, and decolonization was all the rage during the mid-to-late half of the 20th century.
 
 
 
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Brussels sprouts
    Useful resources

    Groups associated with this forum:

    View associated groups
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Quick reply
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.