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    (Original post by pandaseattoast)
    Explain or i'll just disregard this as a silly and troll comment
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
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    For once the Italians get something right.
    This is merely a proposed law, it's not at all clear whether it will actually pass.

    Nutritionally illiterate parents - whether they are vegan or not - are of course going to do harm to their children. Not only is this proposed law unenforceable, it's also ridiculous on medical grounds. As the American Dietetic Association has stated:

    appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.
    There are plenty of people who have raised perfectly healthy vegan children. The problem, as I say, is nutritional illiteracy. Ironically, those who claim that vegan diets are nutritionally inadequate are themselves being scientifically illiterate.
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    I grew up lacto vegetarian (no egg) and my mum got a hell of a hard time. Not too long ago I saw the nurse who used to run the baby clinic, she's amazed I'm so healthy without meat. The fact people haven't developed more sense in the last few decades is absurd.

    I never felt forced, in fact the things that bothered me was other people trying to coax me into eating meat or acting like I was being forced ('just have a turkey dinosaur, we won't tell your mum' :facepalm:). I was no more indoctrinated into not eating meat than most people are indoctrinated into eating meat.

    Children need a healthy balanced diet. Vegans have different considerations to omnis, that doesn't mean a healthy balanced diet isn't possible. Parents should be informed and, when needed, helped to provided a healthy balanced diet. Single out this as 'vegan bad' is simplistic, wrong and avoiding an opportunity to really engage with how best to ensure all kids have healthy balanced diets
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
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    For once the Italians get something right.
    What defines forced here? What if the parents just cook vegan food at home and allow the child to go and buy non-vegan food with their own money? Should the parents have to buy meat just for the child?
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    (Original post by BKS)
    I was no more indoctrinated into not eating meat than most people are indoctrinated into eating meat.
    Indeed. Being fed meat from a young age enables people to be socially conditioned into becoming carnists.

    Parents have control over many aspects of their children's lives. Parenting includes passing on one's moral values to one's children. The notion that abstaining, as far as possible, from hurting, harming and inflicting suffering on other sentient beings shouldn't be passed onto one's child is only justifiable if doing so will harm the health of the child which, as shown above, won't (if you're not nutritionally illiterate, which affects non-vegan parents as well as vegan parents).
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
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    For once the Italians get something right.
    What a stupid law.

    Whats wrong with bringing your children up on a HEALTHY vegan diet.

    Should parent who force a meat eating diet be prosecuted as well?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I normally respect vegans (who aren't militant) because I tried going vegan and it failed miserably. Parents forcing their kids into vegan diets is terrible though. Some people will go through it and others won't.
    Whats wrong with bringing your children up on an healthy diet?

    Yes I can understand your concern if the vegan diet wasn't healthy, but as long as the parents do the right research and bring in the right food then they can bring their child up on an healthy vegan diet.

    Prosecuting parents who bring their child up on a healthy diet is wrong and just stupid.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    I love Italians for this.
    You sound pathetic.. whats wrong with bring you child up on a diet as long as it is healthy?
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    A vegan diet is an inadequate diet. Vegans are inadequate people.
    Is that why vegans are more likely to live longer than people who eat meat.

    ffs do you even logic?

    Listen just because yu don't like someones reasons for a diet it doesn't mean that the diet itself is inadequate. You idiot.
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    Should parents with obese kids also be prosecuted? Or is that ok because meat is involved in the diet?
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    (Original post by topkart)
    You sound pathetic.. whats wrong with bring you child up on a diet as long as it is healthy?
    lol... let your child grow up and decide what they want to do.
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    (Original post by topkart)
    Whats wrong with bringing your children up on an healthy diet?

    Yes I can understand your concern if the vegan diet wasn't healthy, but as long as the parents do the right research and bring in the right food then they can bring their child up on an healthy vegan diet.

    Prosecuting parents who bring their child up on a healthy diet is wrong and just stupid.
    Absolutely correct.

    @MrsSheldonCooper he does make a GREAT point.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
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    For once the Italians get something right.
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    (Original post by Kendrik Lamar)
    PERFECT. Should extend to religion and bedtime as well
    (Original post by loveleest)
    I love Italians for this.

    All of you are absolute morons.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    lol... let your child grow up and decide what they want to do.
    You can bring them up on a healthy vegan diet then let them decided what to do once they older and understand.
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    (Original post by topkart)
    Whats wrong with bringing your children up on an healthy diet?

    Yes I can understand your concern if the vegan diet wasn't healthy, but as long as the parents do the right research and bring in the right food then they can bring their child up on an healthy vegan diet.

    Prosecuting parents who bring their child up on a healthy diet is wrong and just stupid.
    They can be healthy eating meat as well you know.

    They're FORCING children into it which is what's the problem.
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    Okay but it's about 'inadequate' diet, not 'vegan diet'. You are very silly if you think everyone who is vegan has an inadequte diet, and likewise everyone who isn't vegan has an adequate diet.

    This is a good move though and something I support; just a shame people are using it against veganism like a bunch of sheep.
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    (Original post by greatguy903)
    You can bring them up on a healthy vegan diet then let them decided what to do once they older and understand.
    Or you could let your child choose what foods whatever they want and then let them grow up and decide what to eat!
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    They can be healthy eating meat as well you know.

    They're FORCING children into it which is what's the problem.
    True. They can be unhealthy if they dont feed them the right foods. But children can also be unheathy on a meat diet.

    The word force is a bit strong- I would say more bring up on a vegan diet. If you think that bringing someone up on a diet is forcing them then what do you say about people who are 'FORCING' their kids onto a meat diet?
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    (Original post by Inexorably)
    Okay but it's about 'inadequate' diet, not 'vegan diet'. You are very silly if you think everyone who is vegan has an adequte diet, and likewise everyone who isn't vegan has an adequate diet.

    This is a good move though and something I support; just a shame people are using it against veganism like a bunch of sheep.
    EXACTLY.
 
 
 
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