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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Neither are Mohamed's
    Pakistan blocked an attempted ban on child mariages because the ban would be unislamic, as it went against Mo's actions.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Are you blind or just stupid? There was no question in the response.
    He was talking about How That people are Justified to hate on people with Views like this, He gave an example of people following The "perfect man"

    Instead of talking about how it isnt justified or making up some nonsense you just tried to put the blame on us.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    What about Moses the plague-spreading terrorist?
    What, the one that didn't exist? Also, if you read exodus you will find that Moses didn't do it anyway.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    this /thread

    Next thread will be 'Nazi's just misunderstood and want to get on with their lives'
    exactly - the only difference here technically is that nazis were white and therefore evil, whereas (most) muslims are of aarab/desi race and therefore can do no wrong
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    Facebook was blowing up with Muslims blaming Trump for this, assuming that it was a hate crime before we even knew who the shooter was. Dat logic. It seems that now all murders of Muslims are automatically hate crimes, regardless of who did it and motive. Mental, really.

    Some are even still doing it even though we now know the guy is Hispanic. Cause Hispanics sure are likely to take Trump's lead on things*:laugh:
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Pakistan blocked an attempted ban on child mariages because the ban would be unislamic, as it went against Mo's actions.
    there are a few other countries that have done the same

    all because mo did it......
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    What about Moses the plague-spreading terrorist?
    :lol: I can't lie, that's quite funny
    but christianity + judaism went through a western enlightenment, spanning hundreds of years, which basically chastised the fundamentalism of those religions - in fact, I'd go so far as to say that western-based christianity and judaism aren't religions any more (as they don't follow the doctrines) but merely very considerable social movements/cultures. islam, on the other hand, is a full-fledged religion because they actually follow and believe everything it says. that's why you get terrorism, homophobia, child marriages, etc
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    :lol: I can't lie, that's quite funny
    but christianity + judaism went through a western enlightenment, spanning hundreds of years, which basically chastised the fundamentalism of those religions - in fact, I'd go so far as to say that western-based christianity and judaism aren't religions any more (as they don't follow the doctrines) but merely very considerable social movements/cultures. islam, on the other hand, is a full-fledged religion because they actually follow and believe everything it says. that's why you get terrorism, homophobia, child marriages, etc
    If Islam is the cause of these things, then why is there such little terrorism in the highest population Muslim countries (India, Indonesia, etc)?

    The answer is that Islam isn't the cause. The Quran is open to interpretation, terrorists aren't 'following it to the word', they are manipulating it to justify their actions.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    What, the one that didn't exist? Also, if you read exodus you will find that Moses didn't do it anyway.
    Doesn't matter whether or not he exists, he is an idolised religious figure, and yes he quite clearly did command God to destroy the lives of many Egyptians.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Doesn't matter whether or not he exists, he is an idolised religious figure, and yes he quite clearly did command God to destroy the lives of many Egyptians.
    No, he didn't, go and read exodus again. Yahweh ordered Moses to be his herald, and Yahweh did the plagues.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    If Islam is the cause of these things, then why is there such little terrorism in the highest population Muslim countries (India, Indonesia, etc)?

    The answer is that Islam isn't the cause. The Quran is open to interpretation, terrorists aren't 'following it to the word', they are manipulating it to justify their actions.
    you're talking about population, not percentages, with those countries. it would be like talking about jews in america and not in israel. it's not at all a good perspective and it isn't accurate to that demographic whatsoever.

    look to the middle east - tell me it's not an awful place because of islam. it's a hellhole. it's a sink hole for human happiness.
    indonesia and malaysia aren't exactly flawless - they are less fundamentalist (probably due to the influence of western trade, and china) but they still incorporate some fundamentalist elements of islam into their legal systems.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    you're talking about population, not percentages, with those countries. it would be like talking about jews in america and not in israel. it's not at all a good perspective and it isn't accurate to that demographic whatsoever.

    look to the middle east - tell me it's not an awful place because of islam. it's a hellhole. it's a sink hole for human happiness.
    indonesia and malaysia aren't exactly flawless - they are less fundamentalist (probably due to the influence of western trade, and china) but they still incorporate some fundamentalist elements of islam into their legal systems.
    This is a joke right? It was perfectly fine for decades with Islam, the reason it became so ****** is because of failed western foreign policy and corrupt dictators and war. Islam did not cause it to become what it is, if Islam did, then how come India and Indonesia are relatively well off?
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    No, he didn't, go and read exodus again. Yahweh ordered Moses to be his herald, and Yahweh did the plagues.
    His actions still caused the plague, Christians clearly idolise a terrorist who destroyed the lives of many Egyptians.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    His actions still caused the plague, Christians clearly idolise a terrorist who destroyed the lives of many Egyptians.
    No, he didn't, Yahweh decided to kill the first born sons, not Moses.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    No, he didn't, Yahweh decided to kill the first born sons, not Moses.
    Your response makes no sense in terms of grammar.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Your response makes no sense in terms of grammar.
    Yahweh decided to kill the first born sons, Moses didn't decide to kill the first born sons. Do you understand?
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Wait, so you hate democracy?

    You have it from AperfectBalance guys, my society, democracy, is terrible

    I'm not a Muslim lol
    You will make a good dhimmi then.
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    Targeting individual Muslims is wrong on so many levels.

    Criticising a backward and oppressive ideology isn't.

    /thread
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    This is a joke right? It was perfectly fine for decades with Islam, the reason it became so ****** is because of failed western foreign policy and corrupt dictators and war. Islam did not cause it to become what it is, if Islam did, then how come India and Indonesia are relatively well off?
    Western foreign policy failed because of the prevalence of Islam in those countries. Western governments thought everyone in the world shared the same enlightened values so wanted to put power in the hands of the people. Unfortunately the people were fundamentalist muslims and ended up installing dictators and warlords and warring amongst themselves. India is not a muslim majority country, it has 12% muslims. Indonesia has a significant amount of terrorism, it just doesn't make the news in Europe because it's on the other side of the world.
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    (Original post by D3LLI5)
    Western foreign policy failed because of the prevalence of Islam in those countries. Western governments thought everyone in the world shared the same enlightened values so wanted to put power in the hands of the people. Unfortunately the people were fundamentalist muslims and ended up installing dictators and warlords and warring amongst themselves. India is not a muslim majority country, it has 12% muslims. Indonesia has a significant amount of terrorism, it just doesn't make the news in Europe because it's on the other side of the world.
    The point is, Indonesia, being 90+% Muslim, surely would be equally or more ****ed up than the Middle East, with more conflict and constant mass terror attacks? But oh, it isn't. It has had one minor terror attack this year, whereas the Middle East has had thousands, and has many active terrorist/militant groups.

    So your theory about Islam being the cause is simply not true. The cause is because the Middle East is an isolated desert with limited connection to the outside world, poor living standards, therefore a fertile environment for corrupt regimes, and a conflict has emerged which has catalysed the whole thing. Islam just happens to reside there. If Syria was 100% Christian, we would be seeing Christian extremist attacks all across the world too.
 
 
 
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