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    There is no real point moving companies from one part of the UK to another - especially to Scotland because of 'Brexit'.

    If Scotland ever became independent due to a referendum (which if was taken to day polls have suggested them to remain in the UK) they are unlikely to ever become part of the EU. This is due to the fact that to become a member every member state has to agree to the country joining; Spain is one country that would decline due to fears, from the Spanish government, that if Scotland is able to become independent - Catalonia will demand independence or at least a referendum to become independent too.

    You cannot use former Yugoslavian states as the reasons for them to become independent are different to Scotland's and at a different time period. Also only ONE of the former Yugoslavian states is a member - Croatia. Croatia became independent in 1991 and became a EU member state in 2013 and they still have restrictions on them. Moreover, what would Scotland have to give to the EU that they need? It would decrease money coming into the other countries from the EU too.

    Hypothetically if Scotland were to ever join the EU it would probably be in about 20 years time (if not longer) and would require many changes. Could Scotland survive being totally independent? They have a lot of benefits including economical reasons as to why to stay in the UK. They get more money than any other UK country per person - which is mainly funded by the rest of the UK. This would result in an increase in tax or cutbacks which would make the SNP and independence more unpopular and hence why they just ignore it. This would make an independent Scotland's economy to be to risky for companies to want to move there and hence why they won't.
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    Oh God, what rot. Same as the Euro argument. It will not happen, and Scotland is simply self-righteous and uppity and mad if they think Brussels rule and a failing EU offers them a great future.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Some former Yugoslavian states have joined the EU e.g. Croatia as has the Czech Republic so that sets the precedent for Scotland to separate from the UK and join the EU
    Exactly. Spain and Belgium didn't worry when Yugoslavia split up neither did they worry when Czecslovakia split in two. And most of those countries were welcomed into the EU without Spain or Belgium vetoing their application.

    So why would they worry about Scotland splitting from England?

    Tbh May has a lot to think about when and if she launches Brexit, Scotland could become independent and they could be allowed back into the EU

    Does May really want to be remembered as the Prime minister who broke up the United Kingdom because of Brexit?

    I don't want to see Scotland leave but the more noise Scotland makes the longer Brexit will be stalled.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Scotland will do everything it can to remain in the EU. There are already a lot of companies and people intent on relocating North of the border anticipating that Scotland will either succeed in a deal to remain in the EU or become independent of England to rejoin the EU.

    Nonetheless a lot of industry, talent and intellectuals value the EU very much and they are prepared to re-locate to Scotland to enjoy the benefits of EU membership, free trade and liberalism. Many people may also head North due to the increase in racism and xenophobia since the Brexit victory. This could be a brain drain to England as people leave for the action. Scotland's economy will flourish all while England goes backwards.

    It could result in a England being like post war East Germany where industry and droves of people flocked west to escape communism and soviet control, it resulted in a brain drain where thousands deserted the DDR like they will desert England post Brexit.
    I mean given that France and Spain have said that they would use their vetos if an independent Scotland attempted to join/remain in the EU...
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Scotland will do everything it can to remain in the EU. There are already a lot of companies and people intent on relocating North of the border anticipating that Scotland will either succeed in a deal to remain in the EU or become independent of England to rejoin the EU.

    Nonetheless a lot of industry, talent and intellectuals value the EU very much and they are prepared to re-locate to Scotland to enjoy the benefits of EU membership, free trade and liberalism. Many people may also head North due to the increase in racism and xenophobia since the Brexit victory. This could be a brain drain to England as people leave for the action. Scotland's economy will flourish all while England goes backwards.

    It could result in a England being like post war East Germany where industry and droves of people flocked west to escape communism and soviet control, it resulted in a brain drain where thousands deserted the DDR like they will desert England post Brexit.
    What a load of rubbish.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Exactly. Spain and Belgium didn't worry when Yugoslavia split up neither did they worry when Czecslovakia split in two. And most of those countries were welcomed into the EU without Spain or Belgium vetoing their application.

    So why would they worry about Scotland splitting from England?

    Tbh May has a lot to think about when and if she launches Brexit, Scotland could become independent and they could be allowed back into the EU

    Does May really want to be remembered as the Prime minister who broke up the United Kingdom because of Brexit?

    I don't want to see Scotland leave but the more noise Scotland makes the longer Brexit will be stalled.
    Czechoslovakia split by mutual consent long before joining the EU and they remain very good friends. I think you'll find Spain and Belgium did worry about Yugoslavia since they contributed towards the NATO interventions there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_b..._of_Yugoslavia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...liberate_Force
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Scotland will do everything it can to remain in the EU. There are already a lot of companies and people intent on relocating North of the border anticipating that Scotland will either succeed in a deal to remain in the EU or become independent of England to rejoin the EU.

    Nonetheless a lot of industry, talent and intellectuals value the EU very much and they are prepared to re-locate to Scotland to enjoy the benefits of EU membership, free trade and liberalism. Many people may also head North due to the increase in racism and xenophobia since the Brexit victory. This could be a brain drain to England as people leave for the action. Scotland's economy will flourish all while England goes backwards.

    It could result in a England being like post war East Germany where industry and droves of people flocked west to escape communism and soviet control, it resulted in a brain drain where thousands deserted the DDR like they will desert England post Brexit.
    Scotland has a bigger budget deficit (as % of GDP) than Greece. They would have to massively increase tax and cut spending to fund their independence (bye bye free universities). The EU will not admit a country in economic perdition.



    Scotland will not leave.

    Moreover, the attitude in Scotland regarding the independence hasn't changed after Brexit: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...exit-vote-poll

    In addition: "Its trade within the UK now makes up nearly two-thirds of its overall exports, worth £48.5bn, compared with only 15% with the EU."
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...thinktank-gove
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
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    Please don't tell me you said that. I know it's early but come on......
    Exactly what I thought


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    If Scotland become independent the exodus won't be from England to Scotland, but there will be an exodus. It will be people fleeing a collapsing economy north of the border, which will only exacerbate the issue.
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    Personally i don't believe that Scotland will leave the United Kingdom due to Brexit and that's evidenced by the fact that Sturgeon has not exactly being clamouring for it along with polling evidence which suggests no real surge.

    With that being said even if Scotland did leave and get into the EU, the OP's vision seems to imply a degree of ignorance. For example OP, you have not realised that many of the multinationals in London who want the EU would not simply up sticks to Edinburgh, a far less important and somewhat provincial city. Berlin, Paris and Brussels are the cities that London is competing with, not Edinburgh. For the manufacturers who may move from England there is again the same question of why they would move to what to what would be a provincial part of Europe, these firms would move to places like Germany and Poland.

    Scotland is successful as part of the United Kingdom because as part of a much more important whole places like Edinburgh are able to compete with some of the more important European cities. As an independent nation however Scotland would be a wealthy but relatively unimportant part of the European con-federation (the EU) and hence Edinburgh would be competing with cities further down the list for business, not above it.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    Scotland will do everything it can to remain in the EU.
    So you're saying Scotland will do nothing?
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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    They're blood & soil loony nationalists and I look forward to the party fading back into the obscurity it came from.
    Well that's not likely to happen.
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    The EU has destroyed Europe and you still want to stay, how deluded can one get.
 
 
 
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